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Unread 11-13-2011, 08:21 PM   #1
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Devil's Drop-off

I just went out to the mud caves this weekend and took a round-a-bout way that took us by a steep trail which I was told is called the Devil's Dropoff. It is off the Arroyo Del Dialbo trail and looks pretty severe. I was told that it is not climbable except with locking axles. Based on my (somewhat limited) experience, I thought it could be had with the right tires and skill....
Anyone got any say on this?

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Unread 11-13-2011, 08:48 PM   #2
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Have not been out there since the last couple of rain storms so it depends. I have seen that part of the trail as a massive dune or a climb up loose gravel. The last few times it was no challenge at all but there has almost certainly been recent washout.


this is the lower part in may 2008

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Unread 11-14-2011, 11:04 AM   #3
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It didn't look much worse to me than the Jasper Trail off the 78, just longer. I guess you could always go down and try to go back up and then if ya don't make it, just drive out the other way....... sure looks tempting, but I'll wait until I have new tires.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 11:31 AM   #4
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I have a million wheeling pictures but could not find any of the "hard" parts. There are a few guys that still insist that trail is one way only; going down. But really no matter what the condition of the trail going up is the only challenging part; after that there are a couple of rocks to get over then it's several miles of washboard out to Ocatillo Wells.

There are a couple of pretty steep climbs right before the top that could be a problem depending on how rutted they are. Good tires at a minimum.

Most of the group I have been with start at pinion mountain, thru the squeeze, heart attach hill then back up diablo drop off and back around to the S2 and home. Pinion Mtn trail has a couple of challenging parts but for the most part this circuit is a lot of dirt road with not much payoff.

The Squeeze.



Heart Attack Hill.




One of the climbs on the Pinion Trail.




Afterward.

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This was one run from November 2010

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Unread 11-14-2011, 12:41 PM   #6
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I'm curious to see what the trail looks like now. The first time I went up the dropoff I was in the back of a CJ in the '70's, it really was the devils dropoff. Over the past few years it's mellowed out considerably.

My first TJ run up it took 5 or 6 tries, but it was basically trying to climb a giant sand dune with a 4-banger and factory gearing on 33's.

The key is speed, sorta. You need to have momentum going by the time you hit the turn to the right as you approach the top. At the very top there's been a dip right at the edge, the normal line was to the left for years, last time it was easier, and safer, to the left. 2hi has always worked well, unless you have an LS or Hemi swap, then you can 4lo all the way

And yeah, the right tires, and airing down, make all the difference. Give it a whirl, what's the worst that can happen
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Unread 11-15-2011, 09:58 AM   #7
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wow, looks like I'm in for some good times! And I like the afterwards part, hehehe. As far as condition, i was out there last Saturday and it was hard packed but deeply rutted (at least near the top).
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