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Unread 02-08-2013, 07:32 PM   #16
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thinking about this truss http://ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2...egory_Code=XDT , plus internal sleeves, plus welded C's and chromo axles....

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Unread 02-09-2013, 04:13 PM   #17
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I can't speak for their truss, but I have their track bar, TB bracket and pitman and can say the quality is good especially for the price. I'm not to sold on their LA kit though...that caster adjuster cam thing they have on the upper link frightens me lol
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Unread 02-09-2013, 05:23 PM   #18
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Truss is super nice but the price is 1/3 of the total build. Maybe Joe can hook me up with his fabrication magic and do mine the way his is. Hint hint. I sourced a 79 f250 Hp44 locally out of a junker but after pricing the whole enchilada its still double the Hp30 build. Money saved can go to outboards and a 4 link rear. I just won't have any bragging rights about a beef cake front end is all..
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Unread 02-10-2013, 01:09 PM   #19
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Building a truss for your D30 shouldn't be too much trouble.

The HPD30 truss pics I posted earlier, are now being sported on Chris' YJ ('92 vegas YJ) in Jacksonvill, NC.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/j...5/index15.html
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Unread 02-10-2013, 01:47 PM   #20
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I tend to agree here...if you have the tools and more importantly the time, you could build one and save yourself quite a bit of coin and have something every bit as strong
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Unread 02-10-2013, 04:49 PM   #21
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I agree with DIY savings, but that truss looks pretty cool.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 05:52 PM   #22
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WOWAmazing customer service! I just got off the phone with ARB. I said I need to order 3 of those bolts that I sheared off on my RD30 locker. He said, ok no problem. Whats your name and address. I gave it. Then I was expecting him to ask for a credit card number. Instead he says, Ok Kevin, we will get those shipped out to you tomorrow at no cost and no shipping fee. Have a great day.......... MY JAW DROPPED.. Ive NEVER had a manufacturer do that. AWESOME Customer Service. They could of easily charged me 5.00 a bolt or 7, the way RE does...
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Unread 02-11-2013, 06:03 PM   #23
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NICE!! good to know!
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WOWAmazing customer service! I just got off the phone with ARB. I said I need to order 3 of those bolts that I sheared off on my RD30 locker. He said, ok no problem. Whats your name and address. I gave it. Then I was expecting him to ask for a credit card number. Instead he says, Ok Kevin, we will get those shipped out to you tomorrow at no cost and no shipping fee. Have a great day.......... MY JAW DROPPED.. Ive NEVER had a manufacturer do that. AWESOME Customer Service. They could of easily charged me 5.00 a bolt or 7, the way RE does...
That is good news. I wonder if it makes sense to replace all of them?

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Unread 02-11-2013, 06:29 PM   #25
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I ordered 6 even though I needed 3. My logic is the same. Jeff, I understand it's easy to get the carrier/locker out, but when I put it back in do I have to recheck backlash and all that good stuff? That in which comes the ignorance. Im gonna see if I can just removed the 3 other bolts w/o taking the locker out and slipping the cover back to get at the sheared bolts, then pull then out and just bolt all the new ones in. It would be MUCH easier. So easy that it probably wont be able to be done..
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I ordered 6 even though I needed 3. My logic is the same. Jeff, I understand it's easy to get the carrier/locker out, but when I put it back in do I have to recheck backlash and all that good stuff? That in which comes the ignorance. Im gonna see if I can just removed the 3 other bolts w/o taking the locker out and slipping the cover back to get at the sheared bolts, then pull then out and just bolt all the new ones in. It would be MUCH easier. So easy that it probably wont be able to be done..
As long as the same shims go back in the same place there is no issue with the gear pattern. Since the heads are off and all the tension is off those three bolts they might just come right out, unless they have locktite.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 09:03 PM   #27
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I just dont want to take the 3 other bolts off, try to back the cylinder cap off enough to get at the bolts to turn them off and have the diaphram, piston and u ring go retarded on me.
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The preload on the ARB carrier *should* be pretty high. In other words, you may have a hard time getting it out unless (like I mentioned earlier) the initial preload was set too low.

If the preload is set too low- the new bolts *may* suffer the same consequence.

If you don't need a carrier/case spreader to get the ARB out (and more importantly, back in) I'd suspect that the preload will be too low while going back in. In other words.....you *may* need to add some carrier preload, and if you do, that means more carrier shims & a pattern check.

Taylor & I built a D30 case spreader. If he still has it, he may let you borrow it.

I'm not saying that for sure you'll need one - just saying that I feel you may to get the preload high enough.
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The preload on the ARB carrier *should* be pretty high. In other words, you may have a hard time getting it out unless (like I mentioned earlier) the initial preload was set too low.

If the preload is set too low- the new bolts *may* suffer the same consequence.

If you don't need a carrier/case spreader to get the ARB out (and more importantly, back in) I'd suspect that the preload will be too low while going back in. In other words.....you *may* need to add some carrier preload, and if you do, that means more carrier shims & a pattern check.

Taylor & I built a D30 case spreader. If he still has it, he may let you borrow it.

I'm not saying that for sure you'll need one - just saying that I feel you may to get the preload high enough.
Good point Joe. I have only had a few give me trouble coming out but we took premo's out last week and it almost fell after taking the bearing caps off. If it's tight to get out then getting it back in could be a challenge without a case spreader. You never know.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 10:55 PM   #30
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ok, this might turn into a mess so what I'm gonna do is attempt to extract the sheared bolts Wednesday. If I can't then Im just going to not engage my locker until I get it out and in to my HP30 swap at which time I'll have a gear shop do the work. No point taking it out, monkeying it back in just to have it done again in a few months. I appreciate the insight guys. I figured as much about the pre-load. Ive read from ARB's instruction manual that you want to get the preload as tight as motherly possible.
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