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Unread 01-19-2013, 12:11 PM   #1
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Orange Peel Questions / Opinions

So I just had a craigslist painter paint my hood, grill, and fenders that are currently off the jeep for a engine swap. I supplied the paint. I used a premixed urethane base, with a acrylic lacquer primer and clear coat.

He painted them in his shop on a cold day when it was likely 35 outside. I was a little worried about the temp in his shop not getting warm enough, but he assured me that it was no problem. Well as expected when I picked them up yesterday the clear coat has orange peel. He said it should wet sand and buff out without issue, but I am looking for a few other opinions & tips before tackling the job. What do yall think? Will it wet sand and buff out? I am not looking for a show quality paint just want it to be nice enough that I can put the factory sticker package back on it and not feel like I wasted money doing so. I am planning on knocking out the body work on the rear and having the tub painted within the next 4 months or so.

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Unread 01-19-2013, 12:39 PM   #2
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Wet sand and buff!
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Unread 01-19-2013, 01:38 PM   #3
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Yeah...the paint, in the last picture, looks a little "grainy", where the light hits it...

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Yeah...the paint, in the last picture, looks a little "grainy", where the light hits it...

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It is. You get what you pay for right.?. I payed him $350 to paint it plus what I have in to the paint. He said he put 4 coats of clear down. Should wet sand and buff out?
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With 4 coats of clear, I would think that you could get those parts as mirror-like as you want. Real nice color, BTW...

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You can wet sand and buff or pay him to do it. If you pay him to do it and something does not look good its all on him. If you buff it and something turns bad he will say it 100% your fault. It a no win situation. But it does look good in the pictures youve taken.

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He should have sanded and buffed it before releasing them to you!
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He should have sanded and buffed it before releasing them to you!
I agree.... unless you specifically asked for substandard work..... it should be on HIM to do it to your satisfaction..... if you paid him substandard currency you would be even.
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I agree.... unless you specifically asked for substandard work..... it should be on HIM to do it to your satisfaction..... if you paid him substandard currency you would be even.
Partially my fault..I did not establish if he was going to wet sand them or not. Again, get what you pay for. Everyone else I called wanted 200-300 per panel and he did all four for $350. Lesson learned.

Thanks for the replies. Planning on getting it installed before I start with the wet sanding and buffing.
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Partially my fault..I did not establish if he was going to wet sand them or not. Again, get what you pay for. Everyone else I called wanted 200-300 per panel and he did all four for $350. Lesson learned.

Thanks for the replies. Planning on getting it installed before I start with the wet sanding and buffing.
The point they were trying to make is that any painter with ANY kind of pride would of never left orange peel like that leave his shop...

Orange peel is part of the painter's responsibility and it is HIS fault wether it be the temperature,spray gun problems,wrong reducer..etc..

Bottom line is,he left you an unfinished job no matter what you paid.
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I agree.... unless you specifically asked for substandard work..... it should be on HIM to do it to your satisfaction..... if you paid him substandard currency you would be even.
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The point they were trying to make is that any painter with ANY kind of pride would of never left orange peel like that leave his shop...

Orange peel is part of the painter's responsibility and it is HIS fault wether it be the temperature,spray gun problems,wrong reducer..etc..

Bottom line is,he left you an unfinished job no matter what you paid.
Maybe I should have posted the question in the help me conduct my buisness fourm, however I did not and its in a paint tech fourm. I said I understood that point and came here looking for advise on how to fix the problem not on how to conduct my buisness...
Thanks to those who helped with the question I asked...
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Four coats of clear should be enough.

It might pay to have it done.
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Looks good MOC for the price. I am hoping to paint my fenders, grill, hood, doors and tub as soon as the weather warms up..I'd be happy if it all turns out like yours with no runs. Did you do all the primer and body prep on the parts? Its expected to have some orange peel and to have to wetsand it out with 2000 and buff/polish out anyway. You should try it on one of the pieces and see how it turns out.
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Unread 01-23-2013, 02:11 AM   #14
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I would wet sand with 1500grit, use a professional buffer with variable speed, 3M super fine glaze then finish with 3M ultra fine machine glaze for best results. IMHO
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Unread 01-23-2013, 06:52 PM   #15
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Maybe I should have posted the question in the help me conduct my buisness fourm, however I did not and its in a paint tech fourm. I said I understood that point and came here looking for advise on how to fix the problem not on how to conduct my buisness...
Thanks to those who helped with the question I asked...
No need to get testy.....I work in the industrial paint industry as an inspector.... i just get irritated with shoddy work.... you are right just wet sand and buff and it will be a conversation piece for everyone that questions how your new paint job is substandard.
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