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post #1 of 10 Old 09-06-2012, 09:01 PM Thread Starter
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Need advice on paint

I have a couple concerns. I found a rust spot on my truck but on the roof. Should i get just that little part painted. or should i paint the entire truck. its a black 2008 grand cherokee diesel. please any advice helps thanks!!

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post #2 of 10 Old 09-06-2012, 09:07 PM
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if the rest of the truck still has the factory paint on it, my suggestion would be to leave it alone. generally speaking, the factory paint is much better than even a brand new paint job out of the finest of body shops. the clearcoat is much harder from the factory and will hold up better to being wetsanded and buffed. jmho.
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I have a couple concerns. I found a rust spot on my truck but on the roof. Should i get just that little part painted. or should i paint the entire truck. its a black 2008 grand cherokee diesel. please any advice helps thanks!!
I'd sand and paint the whole roof itself..easier to blend in with the body lines...if you just do a spot or 2 it'll stick out like a sore thumb.

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if the rest of the truck still has the factory paint on it, my suggestion would be to leave it alone. generally speaking, the factory paint is much better than even a brand new paint job out of the finest of body shops. the clearcoat is much harder from the factory and will hold up better to being wetsanded and buffed. jmho.


If you just leave it alone you'll be cutting out and replacing rotted sheetmetal,making for a very expensive job..............

The factory paints on any vehicle is the same exact paint that can be bought over the counter at any auto body supply store....no difference what so ever..................

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If you just leave it alone you'll be cutting out and replacing rotted sheetmetal,making for a very expensive job..............

The factory paints on any vehicle is the same exact paint that can be bought over the counter at any auto body supply store....no difference what so ever..................
It's not the paint that is different it's the curing procedure. In the factory they paint and cure the body in ovens at much higher temps and longer periods of time than you can in any body shop because the factory does this before putting on all the rubber and plastic bits that would melt in the baking process. This produces a much harder material than you could reproduce in a paint booth with a fully assembled vehicle.

Most body shops now a days will not do a complete respray for anything less than a small fortune (and if they do its going to be a Maaco job) as they don't want the head ache of dealing with the customer coming back because the quality is not up to the original.

Never touch factory paint if you can help it.
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It's not the paint that is different it's the curing procedure. In the factory they paint and cure the body in ovens at much higher temps and longer periods of time than you can in any body shop because the factory does this before putting on all the rubber and plastic bits that would melt in the baking process. This produces a much harder material than you could reproduce in a paint booth with a fully assembled vehicle.

Most body shops now a days will not do a complete respray for anything less than a small fortune (and if they do its going to be a Maaco job) as they don't want the head ache of dealing with the customer coming back because the quality is not up to the original.

Never touch factory paint if you can help it.
Baking the paint only speeds up the curing process so the vehicle can be assembled quickly,baking it on has nothing to do with durability....it's still the same exact coating...........whether it was baked on,or air cured,its still the same exact blend of paints.........
If you'll do your research a lil more,you'll find out coatings that take longer to cure are tougher in the long run once fully cured............
And thats the first i've ever heard of a body shop not wanting to do a re-coat because they fear the customer will come back because it would supposedely be less quality than an assembly line paint job..it's quite the opposite...assembly line coatings are just above average at best compared to a quality coating put on by a professional.....

If high production factory paint jobs were so great,then why do you see so many factory paints fail in a few short years compared to a quality paint by a body shop or body man?.............

I'd put my own work with a good Epoxy primer..good base coat and good clear coat up against any of the high production paint jobs any day.......

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I'll take your word for it but my experience working as a detailer was much different. Factory paint was much easier to work with and didn't take anywhere near the effort the cars coming out of the body shop did.
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I'll take your word for it but my experience working as a detailer was much different. Factory paint was much easier to work with and didn't take anywhere near the effort the cars coming out of the body shop did.
The tougher the paint,the harder it is to sand and buff out......

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Back in the day alot of it was what clear you were using to spray with.We would spray with that old dupont 7500s in the yellow can and it was horrible.Hard as a rock..Then we got the 7600s and it was much better.Lets not even mention IMRON..Then as the years went on i think think technology caught up and everybody had a decent product.I like PPG myself..I would just have the roof fixed and like Ironworker said ..they can just paint the roof and blend into the quarters.Easily enough done if you are a half knowledgeable painter.

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