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post #1 of 22 Old 07-06-2013, 12:50 AM Thread Starter
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Flat paint

So my 06 TJ is currently black and I'm looking to paint it. I really want to do a flat green but I also want to be able to put the stickers back on as it is a G.E. edition. The issue here is I have talked with a few paint shops in my area (and there are very few that I can find) and so far none of them will do a flat paint job. When I questioned why they just said it doesn't look good. I'm unsure of what they mean. I want a flat paint so when I go in the woods trees and bushes won't make those nasty white lines in a clear coat paint.

Any thoughts?? I am getting minor rust due to rock dings and need to do some sort of paint job anyway within the next year.


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post #2 of 22 Old 07-06-2013, 08:26 AM
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I don't understand why the body shops wouldn't paint it a flat color,it's not their choice what color someone wants to paint their vehicle..

Most people that use a flat paint are for the fact it's easier to fix deep scratches themselves...no matter what color you paint it,it'll still get and show scratches just the same.

Those little white scratch lines you see on clear coats from going through woods and trails are most of the time an easy fix and just surface rubs from the branches and easily buffed out,most of the time its just a residue from the branches itself and a good hand buff will get them off unless its a deep scratch..

The thing about a single paint whether its flat or not,once the scratch gets deep you'll be repainting that area..where a clear coat can be easily rubbed out.

So after all that said,if your set on a flat paint..i'd just do it myself for the fact you'll have to learn how to touch it up or repaint in the future anyhow...flat paints are pretty easy to do compared to a gloss single stage or base/clear

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Stickers don't stick to flat.

Do satin, it will get the look you want and should not have a problem getting someone to shoot it.


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I would love to paint it myself...unfortunately I don't have any location to do it...or the time. :-/ The other reason I wanted a flat paint is I was under the impression it is a bit tougher. Guess I need to do more research.

As for satin? Not sure about that. I'll have to look into what that's all about.

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Google it. It's what all the hot rod guys are doing. It's a good look


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It does look good. But will my factory G.E. stickers stick to it?

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post #7 of 22 Old 07-08-2013, 06:00 PM
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i dont think stickers will stick to flat paint
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Why would stickers not stick to flat paint? I'm pretty sure this is not true! Haven't personally tried it but I would put money on it that you will have no problem putting stickers on flat paint.

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Go try it and report back.

OP, they will stick to flat if you put a layer of clear over it.


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My old explorer was ultra flat krylon od green... Stickers stuck just fine... I just waited for a very calm day, have it a good cleaning and sprayed it myself in the driveway. Cost $40 and took maybe 4 hours. Paint lasted for two years before I even needed to do any major touch up work. It was my daily driver, hunting and mud truck all in one. I'd say a good 3 months out of the year was spent in and out of four wheeler and log truck trails in pine trees and most scratches rubbed out with my thumb.

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Blurry pic but that bright green oval on the grill is a sticker on steel diamond plate painted with the krylon ultra flat. Stuck and stayed just fine.

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Why would stickers not stick to flat paint? I'm pretty sure this is not true! Haven't personally tried it but I would put money on it that you will have no problem putting stickers on flat paint.
It all depends on the quality of the adhesive. A smooth glossy surface will always get better adhesion than flat but it should still stick

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Flat paint doesnt mean textured. I have put down plenty of smooth as glass, flat paint jobs.

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post #14 of 22 Old 07-16-2013, 09:48 PM
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When I do a flat paint job I just order a single stage acrylic from Napa, and then add a flatener to it that can also be ordered from Napa. The more flattener you add the flatter it comes out. You have to work quickly using this stuff as well because the paint dries rather quickly and can streak if you dont keep it wet until you finish the section.
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post #15 of 22 Old 07-19-2013, 03:21 PM
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I was told that you can add an additive to your clear coat to keep the paint job flat, am I mistaken in this? Seems like it would solve most of the problems
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