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Unread 06-11-2010, 05:04 PM   #1
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Chassis black

Hey, I shot my frame on my CJ last sunday. Shot it with Nason chassis black from house of color. This paint does have acetone in it. If that matters?
On the can it said , " If paint looks pebbly after first coat, immediately apply another coat", so i did.
Ended up applying about 4 coats. Looked good and slick afterwards. When I got home from work Monday, it was all raised up. That gives you a funny sick feelling. This was probably 75 percent like this. So. Ive spent all week after work, knocking the highs off the raised up paint.
Okay. Here is what I did. And here is what a guy told me.
Temperature was probably 85 gegrees.
I shot the first, then immediately the second, then third, then fourth. I don't think I waited long enough between coats. That immediately thing got me, i guess?
Guy told me the acetone did not have time to escape before I reshot it. Hence the raised bubble crap.
Gettin ready to do it again tommorrow. Any help on best temp, or any help at all would be great. A little anxious after the first failure.

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Unread 06-11-2010, 08:56 PM   #2
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Im a little confused because Nason and House of Kolor are two different manufacturers??

But it does sound to me like you put too much on too quick. Lay down a nice solid wet coat let it sit however long it says (10 min??) then shoot the second, let it flash..etc..etc..

The good news is it will look like crap two weeks after you start driving it...so who cares how it looks. But I would get all you can back off, rescuff it, and shoot per specs. Sucks that it was a bad experience for you because normally you can do that stuff with your eyes closed and it can be pretty fun. Dont get discouraged!
Maybe before you shoot the whole thing again, redo a spot that is easy to sand if it gets jacked again, and just do a 2ft spot to check. Once it works better this time, you will have the confidence to finish it, and im sure it will look great. Be ready for your friends to want you to do theres for them too!!
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Unread 06-12-2010, 04:58 AM   #3
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[QUOTE=gtome;9612684]Im a little confused because Nason and House of Kolor are two different manufacturers??

thanks gtome,

Sorry for the confusion. A local oriellys has a paint section in the back. Thought it was house of color? Maybe not.
I think Nason is actually a Dupont paint, I think?

Thanks for the tips. I will wait 10-15 between coats this time. I appreciate your time.

Peace

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Unread 06-12-2010, 09:08 AM   #4
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Yeah Nason is Dupont. I really doubt that Oriellys has House of Kolor, but stranger things have happened.
If you are useing acetone to thin the paint there is a pretty good chance it is an oil based paint. If so, most have a slow dry time and you may want to even give it a little more than 10 min flash time (maybe 20 min?) Read the can and see if it says how long. Good luck.
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Unread 06-12-2010, 01:09 PM   #5
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Yeah Nason is Dupont. I really doubt that Oriellys has House of Kolor, but stranger things have happened.
If you are useing acetone to thin the paint there is a pretty good chance it is an oil based paint. If so, most have a slow dry time and you may want to even give it a little more than 10 min flash time (maybe 20 min?) Read the can and see if it says how long. Good luck.
gtome,

May have dreamed the house of color thing. Hell. I don't know?

The paint (Nason 422-05) is pre-mixed to shoot. But, I did read on the can that it does have acetone in it.
Developed a sinus infection over the last couple of days, so no paint this weekend.
Will let you know when I do though.

Thanks again!!

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Unread 06-12-2010, 09:38 PM   #6
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Haha!! Who knows? I only used Nason a few times, and never anything that was pre-mixed?? But let us know how it went for you. Dont let this frustrate you! Im sure it will go great next time! Post some pics!!
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Unread 06-13-2010, 08:11 PM   #7
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im thinking of doing this too, i have a YJ, its pretty brown under there, im going to sand off the best i can and then start with a coat, then the next.
which would you guys think i s the best paint to use? most lasting? ill post some pictures
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Unread 06-18-2010, 06:03 PM   #8
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Besides powder coat, I dont think anything really lasts. I use the crappy rustoleum from Lowes or whatever. But I use a spray gun, and not spray paint. When it starts to look like crap, I just freshen it up. I like Rust Bullet too, but its kinda pricey.
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