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Unread 07-19-2014, 10:51 PM   #1
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You are going to hate me, 1945 Willys MB build.

We'll I'm sure some of you are going to like this build and some of you are going to hate it. It involves me cutting up my 45 Willys MB.

So Yeah I have a MB that has been in my family for years. It was my grandpa's ranch toy, there were two but one got sold some years ago. I learned to drive in it when I was around 9 years old and would take it down to the river bed and through the fields finding every hill or obstacle I could. Its been in the barn my whole life other than when i convinced someone to let me take it out and drive it around the ranch.

About a year ago following a series of family events and me getting bored with my XJ I decided it was time to pull it out of the barn. My brothers and I had long since moved away and scattered all over the country. No one left to take care of the ranch it fell into a disgusting mess. Anyway I pulled out my MB and got to to my friends house till I could ship it back home.


















My wife was happy to help cleaning up the axles


The plan is simple. Keep it as low as possible, keep as much if the patina and tub as possible, and make it fun

Component wise
YJ springs
NT D44 axles, 5.13 gears, lockers etc
Toy ifs steering box with hydro assist, speedway column and wheel
D18 Tcase. Probably put it in a 20 case eventually
T90 trans
Kubota v2203 engine
Comfortable seats
Wildwood master cylinder

I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff

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Unread 07-19-2014, 11:01 PM   #2
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So far I have the Dana 44s under it with YJ leafs. I used the front in the rear and the rear in the front. There is practically no weight in the back of this thing VS the engine up front it sits pretty level for now. I picked up come crap 35s from a friend over the 4th weekend. ordered some 15x8 cragers with 4"BS and tossed on some rock rings for the fun of it. After looking for months on craigslist for some wheels as soon as I got the new ones a set came up. I have also completely rewired the whole jeep, modern fuses, LEDs everywhere, and so on.


The rear got a new crossmember/bumper and all the spring hangers but I left the springs stock width under the frame. I figured It would help lessen some stress on the frame. I left the spring hanger in the stock spot and with the yj springs being 4 inches longer it moved the axle back 2 inches



For the front I had to move the springs out and the spring hanger back an inch. This left the axle 3 inches forward of stock. I chopped off the frame in front of the grill mounts and made a new front end with 2x3 box and welded that on. Then mounted up the Toy IFS box. Fun fact if you ever need to sleeve a hole for a 1/2" bolt go to lowes/homedepot and get some 3/8ths gas pipe. Remove the seam on the inside and its perfect for 1/2 inch bolts.




It sits pretty much level, the top of the rear tub is 42.5 inches from the ground and the front wheels are 2 inches off the ground in this pic.


Yes I know my garage is a mess haha I'm in the middle of moving out my roommate(homeowner) and moving in my wife.

I got my pitman arm in the mail today, I also picked up the dom for my steering links. Maybe this weekend if the wife gives me time I'll tap the steering box and get my steering built then work on the ram mounts
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Unread 07-20-2014, 12:54 AM   #3
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I like it.

It is your Jeep, so you do what you feel like to it. I like seeing old farts get big(ger) tires and a mild lift on it.
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Unread 07-20-2014, 08:39 AM   #4
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So far I have the Dana 44s under it with YJ leafs. I used the front in the rear and the rear in the front. There is practically no weight in the back of this thing VS the engine up front it sits pretty level for now. I picked up come crap 35s from a friend over the 4th weekend. ordered some 15x8 cragers with 4"BS and tossed on some rock rings for the fun of it. After looking for months on craigslist for some wheels as soon as I got the new ones a set came up. I have also completely rewired the whole jeep, modern fuses, LEDs everywhere, and so on. The rear got a new crossmember/bumper and all the spring hangers but I left the springs stock width under the frame. I figured It would help lessen some stress on the frame. I left the spring hanger in the stock spot and with the yj springs being 4 inches longer it moved the axle back 2 inches For the front I had to move the springs out and the spring hanger back an inch. This left the axle 3 inches forward of stock. I chopped off the frame in front of the grill mounts and made a new front end with 2x3 box and welded that on. Then mounted up the Toy IFS box. Fun fact if you ever need to sleeve a hole for a 1/2" bolt go to lowes/homedepot and get some 3/8ths gas pipe. Remove the seam on the inside and its perfect for 1/2 inch bolts. It sits pretty much level, the top of the rear tub is 42.5 inches from the ground and the front wheels are 2 inches off the ground in this pic. Yes I know my garage is a mess haha I'm in the middle of moving out my roommate(homeowner) and moving in my wife. I got my pitman arm in the mail today, I also picked up the dom for my steering links. Maybe this weekend if the wife gives me time I'll tap the steering box and get my steering built then work on the ram mounts
Love the way you boxed in the spring mounts. Very clean work. How much clearance do you have between the pitman arm and the spring during compression? Keep it up.
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Unread 07-20-2014, 05:15 PM   #5
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Thanks guys. As far as the pitman arm, I'll have plenty of room. I have a flat pitman arm the runs along the bottom of the frame rail, and I'm using GM 1/2 ton TREs (the stuff everyone calls is 1ton)

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Unread 07-20-2014, 11:17 PM   #6
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been working on a 1947 and 1951 for a client, very fun to work on. Everything is so simple and yet very functional. Keep up the good work!
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Unread 07-21-2014, 10:10 AM   #7
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been working on a 1947 and 1951 for a client, very fun to work on. Everything is so simple and yet very functional. Keep up the good work!
Simple and to the point. Nothing fancy or anything that makes you scratch your head and ask why they would do it that way. I work on Jets for a living and I have tires that are more complicated than this jeep haha.

Anyway here are some pics of me getting her home. I think I ended up paying like $200 bucks to have it shipped from my home town in California to Vegas, Not a bad deal.









Okay right now I need to hold off on going to bed and get these steering links done while its only 85 in the garage.
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This is so sweet. I love when people put some life back into these. Subbed
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Unread 07-21-2014, 01:05 PM   #9
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This thing is something that I can never let leave the family. It served the family since the 70s like it is now and I have so much history with it. I remember every weekend going to the family ranch and my grandfather telling me it was mine and letting me drive it. Now its going to be good for another 70 years haha and with the eventual diesel swap 30MPG may put it into DD status.

Anyway I said no sleep until steering links were done so here they are. Im waiting on a tube clamp before I can mount my ram and in the pictures the pitman arm is hardly on, it still has another 1/4 inch to fully seat. I still need to pull the box apart and tap it so there is no reason to drive it home.

Standard stuff here, 1.5"x.250 wall dom, hex tube inserts, and GM TREs








I have been taking this thing pretty slow over the last year, ordering things here and there as the budget allowed, well I have now given myself 2 weeks to get it driving again. There is a 4x4 show/park thing on the 3rd and I will be there... I probably wont have shocks, I will still be rocking the stock metal seats, I dont have the gears in so looks like ill be driving in 2low, and I sure as hell wont have put a floor in it yet but ill be there.

What I have left to drive it,
pick a PS pump and make a mount for it to work with the L134 and find a belt
make/Run lines for the PS pump
Mount my master cylinder
Run brake lines
Install new fuel pump
buy a battery

and shocks would be nice
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Unread 07-24-2014, 12:32 AM   #10
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Unread 07-24-2014, 04:51 PM   #11
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Not a super productive day, I have been waiting on parts before I can move forward with much. That and me working nights makes me want to sleep all day not work all day.

Anyway I got my power steering pump mount made. I started with an XJ sway bar relocation bracket that I had laying around. cut it and bolted it to my head studs. The piece I cut off got some 3/16ths tabs I made welded on to it. this will make the hinge side of the mount, I'm waiting on my pulley to come in so I can line up the belt before I weld it in. The holes where it bolts to the head are slotted so I have about 3/4 inch movement forward and aft on the motor for belt alignment. I will be using a turnbuckle bolted to the water pump and bottom ear of the PS pump for a tensioner. To make this work I had to move my Alt from the forward grove on the crank to the rear grove. Now the crank and alt have a belt and the crank, WP and PS pump share a separate belt. I would have loved to get it all to work with one belt but because of the lower rad hose I couldn't get the Ps pump low enough to engage the water pump.

The pump is a Xj pump. Standard TC style pump, that will get the pressure port drilled out some. I also need to pull the Res off and make a tube so I can run a remote res. I doubt this thing will hold enough fluid for my system.





Obviously not the fastener that will be used haha





Just FYI for anyone working with these old motors. They used to run wide belts, so the crank and water pump have big Vs in them but modern pulleys are made for narrow belts. I have found a Gates brand belt that is 1/2 inch wide, Its just wide enough to engage the old stuff without slipping and narrow enough to engage the modern stuff. It comes in a variety of sizes and is in stock at your local shop I ran a gates 9415. Its an Gates XL belt as they call it. anything from that line will work. Ill be picking up a 33 inch one for the alt and however long I need for the other belt. Also if you don't know how to read belt numbers. the last three numbers is the size. 9415 is 41.5 inches. so a 9330 is 33 inches.


I have to add that I love my UPS driver. Always comes at the same time, which happens to be when my wife isn't home Today I got my first batch of whats left to get it driving
Master cylinder and assorted brackets for that and pedals and resd pressure valve
brake hoses
fuel pump
Hyd ram, hoses, fittings
steering u joint
and I wend down to sears and picked up a battery( hoping for 10 years out of this one haha)






Whats left, well Polyperformance never told me my tube clamp I ordered 10 days ago was back ordered for another week, so that wont be here in time for my drive date, I ended up ordering another one from ebay and my friend will buy the original one when it gets here.

So I need that tube clamp
Power steering fittings and pulley
-6 hose for Ps pressure line
belts
and to run brake lines for the front end, rear should be good thankfully.
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Unread 07-24-2014, 06:47 PM   #12
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Keep up the great work!

I think my passion for Jeeps probably started when we visited my Uncles and would go out a play around with his Jeep sitting out in the yard. I never knew what year it was but remember it as an old flat fender and small enough to be kid sized.
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Unread 07-25-2014, 12:48 PM   #13
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Keep up the great work!

I think my passion for Jeeps probably started when we visited my Uncles and would go out a play around with his Jeep sitting out in the yard. I never knew what year it was but remember it as an old flat fender and small enough to be kid sized.
I had forgotten how small these things were. none of my friends could fit into it when I told them to go drive it.

Today was just more little stuff. I tapped my steering box, I wont got into detail on how to tap a Toyota steering box on a Jeep forum but if you really want to know there are plenty of how tos out there. Basically the same as any box just drilling holes in different spots.




I also got the fuel pump installed and a line ran from the pump to the fuel cell in the back.


I also made a trip to the hardware store and picked up a bunch of bolts and washers and stuff, pretty much everything I'll need to get it back together except for the steering box bolts, I forgot those... My power steering pulley and pressure fittings should be here today. Once I get those I can finish the bracket and go get some belts.
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Unread 07-25-2014, 01:11 PM   #14
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So cool...kudos on all the work needed to get this thing back to its glory

Can't wait to see the rest of this build
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