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post #661 of 2269 Old 09-11-2013, 09:57 PM
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It's not that I am or am not a fan. Folks spend a lot of money buying stretch tanks, longer arms, lots of fab work, new corners to hide the cutting mess, blah blah blah and it adds up quick.

When you get all done, you will not go a single place in JV that Robert Yates and his stock wheelbase on 35's will go. The work, expense and effort simply do not pencil out and the reason I move stretch tanks behind the seats is folks have done the stretch, figured out what I'm now telling you and then do it right. Rather than waste all that money they spent on a stretch tank, they move it behind the front seats.

I will also say that most of the stretches I deal with and fix are so poorly done geometry wise that the owners always make some comment to the effect of "I just should have left it alone".


I"m not trying to kill anyone's hopes and dreams here, I'm trying to save you time and money.

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I"m not trying to kill anyone's hopes and dreams here, I'm trying to save you time and money.
Well if I can't go a single place Robert Yates can go than why am I trying?

Honestly half of it is for driveability. It sounds dumb but I'm sure you can understand Clint. On main street the joints in the concrete are raised 1-2" and with my current wheelbase it bucks me front to back and it drives me nuts. Feels like I am riding a horse. If I could get another few inches it would smoothe it out, and it couldn't hurt offroad.

I wish someone with some Waggy springs f/r would chime in. SkyJ?

They way I envision it I wouldn't have half the cost stretching it that a TJ would. I don't know if I will stretch far enough to need new panels, but springs and hangers are a lot cheaper than arms.
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Also, a lot of that cost is things I need to replace anyway. Rear springs, fuel tank...
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post #664 of 2269 Old 09-11-2013, 10:34 PM
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Don't forget driveshafts.

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Don't forget driveshafts.
I didn't
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post #666 of 2269 Old 09-12-2013, 08:46 AM
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Well if I can't go a single place Robert Yates can go than why am I trying?

Honestly half of it is for driveability. It sounds dumb but I'm sure you can understand Clint. On main street the joints in the concrete are raised 1-2" and with my current wheelbase it bucks me front to back and it drives me nuts. Feels like I am riding a horse. If I could get another few inches it would smoothe it out, and it couldn't hurt offroad.

I wish someone with some Waggy springs f/r would chime in. SkyJ?

They way I envision it I wouldn't have half the cost stretching it that a TJ would. I don't know if I will stretch far enough to need new panels, but springs and hangers are a lot cheaper than arms.
Blaine was saying that a rig with a small stretch isn't going to be anymore capable than a stock WB rig.

As for ride quality, I totally understand. You are just going about it the wrong way. People who own TJ's and LJ's don't notice a big difference and that's a 10" WB difference. I didn't notice much ride quality improvement and I went 15". If you can feel a difference in 2-3", it's in your head.

The biggest difference you can make in ride quality will be getting longer, better riding springs with matched shocks or better yet, (and much more expensive) links and coils.
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post #667 of 2269 Old 09-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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Here is how I did the stretch on my CJ7.

Used stock RE YJ springs front and rear.
Shackle reversal up front. Moved the spring hanger out under the 2" x 4" bumper welded to frame horns. Used MORE spring perches for SOA w 3 different holes for fine tuning stretch. MORE steering box bracket to relocate box 1.25" forward to clear front stretch.
On the rear, I just used the adjustable spring perches. I wish I had done the previous comment and frenched the spring hangers after moving them back and mounting shackle hanger to frame. I got 6" of stretch. It handled great off road and at 70 mph. Very little spring wrap with a V8. No traction bar or sway bars.
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Here you go Sparrows. It took half my lunch break to find an empty county road. Kinda dissapointed, by my count it is at least 8 seconds 0-60.

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post #669 of 2269 Old 09-30-2013, 01:57 PM
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u should be faster than that no codes or anything? not running too rich?

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my on board alternator/welder write up
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my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...ation-1417686/
RC vs BDS
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Nope, no codes but it could be a few different things. First off, that wasnt pedal to the floor, I'd say it was about 80% throttle. Second, my tires are probably still at about 16 psi from my last wheeling trip

If I had both hands on the wheel instead of one holding my phone I would have given it a bit more

The point of the video was to make Sparrows jealous and give him more inspiration
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post #671 of 2269 Old 09-30-2013, 02:13 PM
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ah ok sorry. didn't mean to get on ya. i thought you were trying to figure out why it wasn't faster. but more throttle would help haha

build thread:
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1994 yj stretched, locked and loaded - 6.0l vortec lq4, 4l60e, np231, Dana 44s 37" interco trxus m/t, 3.5" bds front leafs, double triangulated 4 link rear on xj front coils.
1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
2003 tj - 4in skyjacker, 33" mickey thompsons
my on board alternator/welder write up
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...te-up-1301614/
my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...ation-1417686/
RC vs BDS
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/r...s-bds-1461555/
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ah ok sorry. didn't mean to get on ya. i thought you were trying to figure out why it wasn't faster. but more throttle would help haha
No biggie man. The 0-60 time was kind of an afterthought. It is hard to tell from the video quality, dirty gauge lenses, and the fact that I wasnt on the throttle the second the video started. It was kind of a ****ty road to be doing 70 on
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Ahhhhh video wont work on my mobile. Can you text me a link?

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post #674 of 2269 Old 10-02-2013, 10:46 PM
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The point of the video was to make Sparrows jealous and give him more inspiration
Yup. On both accounts!
Watched it like 5 times now.
It's so happening in my jeep!

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post #675 of 2269 Old 10-03-2013, 06:49 AM
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Yup. On both accounts!
Watched it like 5 times now.
It's so happening in my jeep!

Cheers
You going gm or mopar ?

build thread:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/9...-spud-1218315/
1994 yj stretched, locked and loaded - 6.0l vortec lq4, 4l60e, np231, Dana 44s 37" interco trxus m/t, 3.5" bds front leafs, double triangulated 4 link rear on xj front coils.
1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
2003 tj - 4in skyjacker, 33" mickey thompsons
my on board alternator/welder write up
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...te-up-1301614/
my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...ation-1417686/
RC vs BDS
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/r...s-bds-1461555/
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