Yeah all I got to say is ever since I went to gulches once I knew the primary things I needed on my jeep. Wheel base, lockers, and tires. A stock jeep there can really only do the bunny trails, and maybe the easiest lines of TNT and heartbreaker if you can drive and arent afraid to hammer down. I did all of those an radical ravine primarily stock with 33 ats and i can sAy I have way more fun now. I can do pretty much every trail there now with an exception of a few and It's a much more enjoyable time. Also I have peace of mind that nothing will break with how my jeep is built. I can beat the living **** out of it, and I can almost guarantee nothing will break.