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post #106 of 148 Old 08-13-2013, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Realized today I never posted up any of the pictures of my steering from the front end swap back in December.

Ill briefly try to explain the steering problems with TTBs, but if you want a more indepth look at it just google swing steering bronco.

Ok here goes nothing...

With TTB front end each wheel travels on its on arc as the suspension cycles. Much like the need to have your Trac Bar and drag link inline with a solid axle to avoid bump steer, how you set up your steering on TTB has a huge effect on the amount of travel you can achieve and how much your steering wheel moves as your driving down the trail. Ideally you want your tierod to travel in the same arc as your I beam/axle which is hard to do because the beams mount about 12 inches apart from each other and travel independently of each other. To compensate for that people add a swing arm to the inside of the passenger frame and use an idler arm from the pitman arm to the swing to move the tie rod for the drivers side tire. The passenger side tie rod just mounts on the pitman arm and travels to the knuckle. With lots of trial and error or help from someone in the know you can achieve long travel with little to no bump steer.

This picture is a simple drawing of the problems with TTB and steering.

Here is a drawing of how a swinger solves this problem


I built a custom pitman arm based off my stock drop arm, that would locate my passenger tierod about an 1" above the passenger beam pivot. I then fabbed and swinger to have the drivers side tierod mount in the same relative location to the driver beam as for the passenger.


The swinger was pretty simple once I picked a location


Here you can see how everything squeezes in and has room to move



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post #107 of 148 Old 08-14-2013, 12:26 AM
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that is some badass ****. I've been wondering how you would get that kind of travel and not have a rack/pinion.
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post #108 of 148 Old 08-28-2013, 01:05 AM Thread Starter
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My brother took some hd shots with his new camera. It's currently not starting due to issues with removing evap cartridge so we just left it out front. Hope the quality transfers to the thread.
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post #109 of 148 Old 08-28-2013, 04:08 PM
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That **** looks 3D
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post #110 of 148 Old 08-29-2013, 01:49 PM Thread Starter
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That **** looks 3D
I guess his camera takes a low light shot a normal shot and a bright shot, then he combines them together. It removes a lot if the shadows. I really love how they look.

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post #111 of 148 Old 09-10-2013, 09:19 PM Thread Starter
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Got some work done this weekend and today. Finally got around to attaching my body to my cage

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When I first cut my frame I did it all in a few hrs, including rebuilding it so it came out looking like garbage. See below

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I decided it was best to cut all the old out, which it turns out was quite hard. Guess while it may of looked like crap it was strong.

This is where I sit now

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I plan to box all sides of the frame I have left next to my bump stops then tie everything together all neat and clean. I had to build the top plates today to tie things together before I cut out the old. This is the new upper plate


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Look for more pictures in the next few days. Things should go back together better the second time.
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Short testing video from this weekend. Really need to do some rear valve work.

http://youtu.be/B4WSH9aksys

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post #114 of 148 Old 11-04-2013, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you.

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Awesome man. Looks like its doing pretty good! Too much rebound in the rear? Looks like it bucks up a bit.

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post #116 of 148 Old 11-05-2013, 12:51 PM Thread Starter
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Awesome man. Looks like its doing pretty good! Too much rebound in the rear? Looks like it bucks up a bit.
I'm running valving in my coilovers and bypasses so once my valve stack passes my compression bypass I get double valving. I'm going to run without my bypasses this weekend and see how it handles them pull my coilover valving to make it more of a coil carrier rather than shock.

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Just read through your thread man, looks great and good work!

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post #118 of 148 Old 11-12-2013, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
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Just read through your thread man, looks great and good work!
Thank you. I have more pictures to post of some recent improvements and the work continues on my rear suspension valving.

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post #119 of 148 Old 12-30-2013, 05:28 PM Thread Starter
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Finally getting around to posting the rest of the pictures from when I re did my re frame cut. I made new plates for all sides and then welded everything together making a nice box shape to distribute load.



I also rebuilt my firewall to include window and keep more dust out. I built a frame around everything then made panels to fit into the frames. Then I caulked everything and painted it all to match the cage.


Here is a pictures from the outside which shows the new rear light bar


Just for fun I added some stereo stuff to listen to while crusing around

I also addressed my lighting issues with this new roof rack.
On the bumper I have a 24"led bar and two pods


Some other pictures


Top is headlights, Middle is lights plus led bar and bottom is lights, led and roof.

Rear Lights


Front rock lights


Also Some recent videos of us cutting excess wieght and adding hood pins

Also rock crawing the leftovers obstacle at Tierra Del Sol

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