post #5746 of Old 11-04-2013, 08:40 AM
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I'm still worked up over that ledge that we couldn't clear, though...I know I can get make it if I get a touch more clearance and some dry conditions. I need to find a bumper that gives me a bit more clearance in the front and I need to get that transfer case skid out of the way to do it, though, as those are the pieces that will hang me up on ledge attempts for now.
Trust me, when it's dry you'll be able to idle right up it. You have plenty of ground clearance for that obstacle.

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post #5747 of Old 11-04-2013, 11:15 AM
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Sounds like a good trip. I'm kinda like Jankoid, I like to keep moving
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post #5748 of Old 11-04-2013, 04:54 PM
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That's probably worth trying; it's basically the same process that I used to drop the knuckles when I did the brake install and it worked really well. Believe it or not, though, Greta's on-road handling isn't that bad...excepting low-speed turns in corners; I get a lot of body roll when I make a 90 turn at around-town speeds, but aside from that it's pretty livable. If it looks like the AntiRock is going to take awhile to procure, I'll find a set of factory-ish links or quick disconnects and install those, per your suggestion. Thanks!

no problem. I'll look around in my toolbox too and see if I have any spares. I seem to recall there being some in there.

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post #5749 of Old 11-04-2013, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
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Trust me, when it's dry you'll be able to idle right up it. You have plenty of ground clearance for that obstacle.
Shh! I want a new bumper and a tummy tuck!!

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Sounds like a good trip. I'm kinda like Jankoid, I like to keep moving
I like to keep moving as well, but I also like to have a couple of moments to stop and snap a few pictures, here and there.

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no problem. I'll look around in my toolbox too and see if I have any spares. I seem to recall there being some in there.
Awesome! I might have a line on some 3" springs and a bumper, too.

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post #5750 of Old 11-04-2013, 06:18 PM
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At no point in my life have I ever being wheeling without mud. Not gumbo, bogging, bottomless mud, but regular, run of the mill water-mixed-with-dirt.
I live in the northeast and whether it is a powerline trail, woods adventure, offroad park, or my driveway, there is mud. Someday, I would like to 4 wheel without having to spend an equal amount of time cleaning the "fun" off my Jeep.
The other day at work someone asked if I had been wheelin and I said "nope just left the driveway too fast."
Winter with all its glory is a whole different story. My orange Jeep is usually white with salt from Dec. through March. Also why I am looking into an Aluminum tub and a hot dipped frame for the long term.
I digress, the deceased simian looked good with mud on it. I am sure that "Greta" also looked great dirty.
How about Annabelle with some mud? Just hoping.
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At no point in my life have I ever being wheeling without mud. Not gumbo, bogging, bottomless mud, but regular, run of the mill water-mixed-with-dirt.
I live in the northeast and whether it is a powerline trail, woods adventure, offroad park, or my driveway, there is mud. Someday, I would like to 4 wheel without having to spend an equal amount of time cleaning the "fun" off my Jeep.
The other day at work someone asked if I had been wheelin and I said "nope just left the driveway too fast."
Winter with all its glory is a whole different story. My orange Jeep is usually white with salt from Dec. through March. Also why I am looking into an Aluminum tub and a hot dipped frame for the long term.
I digress, the deceased simian looked good with mud on it. I am sure that "Greta" also looked great dirty.
How about Annabelle with some mud? Just hoping.
Carry on.
The mud does tend to get everywhere if there's the least little bit of water present...and yes, I think I spent more time cleaning than I actually spent wheeling. That's okay, though...I hadn't used a pressure washer in a long time and I feel more manly for having done so. I'll see what I can do about the Annabelle + Mud thing; she's supposed to help me take the swaybar off sometime this week, so be ready for that update as well.

Oh, also, Yesterday's Jeeping was me getting a screaming deal on a set of 3" Teraflex coils; they're not the Currie set that I was looking for, but they are a 3" coil and will allow me to see how Greta sits with a split 3"/2.5" set of springs.

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post #5752 of Old 11-05-2013, 05:43 AM
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I would wait to change springs till after the antirock install I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I agree the harshness is mostly tires. I changed springs and shocks with some improvement. Replaced the factory mtrs with load c tires more improvement. Metalcloak control arms quite improvement but still harsh over minor cracks manhole covers etc. After antirock that harshness is gone. Cracks rr tracks minor bumps all smooth no jarring impacts are felt. It still rides like a jeep (as it should) but feels like a Cadillac compared to the stock Rubi I started with. Just my .02 as always carry on will stay tuned.
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I would wait to change springs till after the antirock install I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I agree the harshness is mostly tires. I changed springs and shocks with some improvement. Replaced the factory mtrs with load c tires more improvement. Metalcloak control arms quite improvement but still harsh over minor cracks manhole covers etc. After antirock that harshness is gone. Cracks rr tracks minor bumps all smooth no jarring impacts are felt. It still rides like a jeep (as it should) but feels like a Cadillac compared to the stock Rubi I started with. Just my .02 as always carry on will stay tuned.
That's very interesting; to what factor do you ascribe the improvement, exactly? How did the AntiRock make as much of a difference as it made?

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post #5754 of Old 11-05-2013, 07:35 AM
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I believe just the stiffness of the factory swaybar. I still feel the bumps I run over with both tires at the same time but nothing like before. Stuff that only hits on one tire I hardly notice. I'm sure the factory sway bar is way larger and stiffer than it really needs to be but is used to create a safety factor for a short wheelbase high profile vehicle. I believe that stiffness slows the suspension reaction and tranmits more of the impacts to the frame and to the seat of your pants. I'm not an expert by any means but this is what I experienced.

Edit didn't notice you got a deal on the springs. By all means give it a go especially if you're a little *** high.
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post #5755 of Old 11-05-2013, 07:51 AM
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I believe just the stiffness of the factory swaybar. I still feel the bumps I run over with both tires at the same time but nothing like before. Stuff that only hits on one tire I hardly notice. I'm sure the factory sway bar is way larger and stiffer than it really needs to be but is used to create a safety factor for a short wheelbase high profile vehicle. I believe that stiffness slows the suspension reaction and tranmits more of the impacts to the frame and to the seat of your pants. I'm not an expert by any means but this is what I experienced.
I've felt a better ride with it as well. More roll around sharp turns though

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I believe just the stiffness of the factory swaybar. I still feel the bumps I run over with both tires at the same time but nothing like before. Stuff that only hits on one tire I hardly notice. I'm sure the factory sway bar is way larger and stiffer than it really needs to be but is used to create a safety factor for a short wheelbase high profile vehicle. I believe that stiffness slows the suspension reaction and tranmits more of the impacts to the frame and to the seat of your pants. I'm not an expert by any means but this is what I experienced.

Edit didn't notice you got a deal on the springs. By all means give it a go especially if you're a little *** high.
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I've felt a better ride with it as well. More roll around sharp turns though
Hmm...I wonder how it will compare to the complete disconnect...

Also, yes, Greta is a little high in the rear, so I think a touch more spring height in the front will be welcome... and if it doesn't work out, I'll be one step closer to starting on Annabelle's LJ.

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Have you driven disconnected with the JKS arms on? I seem to remember you unhooked the sway bar and test drove but can't remember if that was factory arms or not. Think about how hard you really have to push to get any significant body roll with the factory swaybar. That has to be restrictive to more than just body roll.
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Have you driven disconnected with the JKS arms on? I seem to remember you unhooked the sway bar and test drove but can't remember if that was factory arms or not. Think about how hard you really have to push to get any significant body roll with the factory swaybar. That has to be restrictive to more than just body roll.
I'm driving with the front disconnected, now... just not intentionally.

I did do a disconnect test a couple of months ago to make sure the swaybar wasn't bound up, and the amount of roll was as significant then as it is at current. It's not terrible, but I don't care for it; I like the firmness a swaybar brings to on-road driving and it certainly limits suspension movement...but regardless, I've still got a harsh ride, disconnected or no.

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Maybe you should swap the tires from the LJ and see if it is just the tires causing the harsh ride.
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Maybe you should swap the tires from the LJ and see if it is just the tires causing the harsh ride.
The wheels won't fit over my brakes.

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