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post #4936 of 8099 Old 06-17-2013, 09:57 PM
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In regards to the headlights, what is H4? My stock ones suck and I want something better but I can't stomach $300 a piece for the LED conversion.


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In regards to the headlights, what is H4? My stock ones suck and I want something better but I can't stomach $300 a piece for the LED conversion.
The H4 is just a different type of bulb than the stock ones that we have; it's a twin-filament halogen that fits a slightly-different housing. Also, it makes use of a replacement harness that can supply a LOT more power to the bulbs themselves; the stock wiring to the headlights is pretty skimpy so the H4 setups replace it with some direct-from-battery wiring and a switched relay that can power some high-output bulbs. Overall, it's a clean, easy and simple way to upgrade - upgrayedd - your stock headlights; the bad news is that the conversion will still cost you somewhere around $200 per unit, or slightly less if you build your own harness. Wiring ain't cheap.

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post #4938 of 8099 Old 06-18-2013, 03:14 PM
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Wow! Thank you for the reply. I'm gonna look those up. Great work on the hood and hinges and stuff. Greta is looking good. I don't comment much but I'm always here reading (since day one). Awesome thread man. Keep it up!

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Wow! Thank you for the reply. I'm gonna look those up. Great work on the hood and hinges and stuff. Greta is looking good. I don't comment much but I'm always here reading (since day one). Awesome thread man. Keep it up!
No problem, man... I'm glad to help, and I certainly appreciate the compliments on Greta's latest updates. I hope you keep reading, and enjoying.

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post #4940 of 8099 Old 06-19-2013, 05:32 AM
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There is an h4 wiring set up that comes w relay, plugs and everything needed for just about 100-130ish bucks. I did it and love it, was the first mod i did on my daughters 05 rubicon. It will make reg lights brighter as well.
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There is an h4 wiring set up that comes w relay, plugs and everything needed for just about 100-130ish bucks. I did it and love it, was the first mod i did on my daughters 05 rubicon. It will make reg lights brighter as well.
You have more info on this?

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http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

I built a harness using his components, run OSRAM 60/65w bulbs, and Hella housings. I have ridiculously adequate headlights.

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post #4943 of 8099 Old 06-19-2013, 09:33 AM
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I forget what brand my harness for the xj is but it was only about $35. I don't know if there's a difference.. The whole swap only cost me about $75. Ill do some research when I'm on the computer and see what I can find for TJs.
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There really isn't much to the harness. You can cut the plug off your headlights, wire it to a $5 relay and get a $8 H4 plug pigtail and you are in business. Get some decent size wire and a fuse or keep it factory looking and run it through an unused spot in the factory under hood fuse box.


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http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

I built a harness using his components, run OSRAM 60/65w bulbs, and Hella housings. I have ridiculously adequate headlights.
That's the plan on my end; he's been very helpful. I'm going to opt for the Cibie housings, but aside from that it sounds like we'll have similar setups.

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I forget what brand my harness for the xj is but it was only about $35. I don't know if there's a difference.. The whole swap only cost me about $75. Ill do some research when I'm on the computer and see what I can find for TJs.
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There really isn't much to the harness. You can cut the plug off your headlights, wire it to a $5 relay and get a $8 H4 plug pigtail and you are in business. Get some decent size wire and a fuse or keep it factory looking and run it through an unused spot in the factory under hood fuse box.
I think it's really a matter of the sorry-a** factory wiring, more than anything else; the factory stuff just can't supply a high-wattage bulb. If you can find some decent hardware to go with adequately-sized wire you can assemble a harness for not-a-great-amount. I was planning on getting my components from Stern, mostly because I've heard exactly zero complaints about them and because I'd like to give the guy a bit of business for having helped me out with innumerable questions. I may buy housings from him as well, depending on what I find when it's time to purchase them.

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this is what i got, took more time to open the box than to install it. http://www.amazon.com/Putco-230004HW...3+jeep+rubicon
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this is what i got, took more time to open the box than to install it. http://www.amazon.com/Putco-230004HW...3+jeep+rubicon
How long have you run this? Any issues? Some of those reviews kinda turned me a bit

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How long have you run this? Any issues? Some of those reviews kinda turned me a bit
Been on mine over a year no issues, on my daughters since november and no issues at all. When reading reviews be open minded, i read them too before i posted the link, the one guy "did this stuff for a living" and the next two were railing on chinese relays.
Before i did the upgrade with my new kc lights i melted a harness and plugs, new front harness was 360 bucks. Now no worries at all.
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this is what i got, took more time to open the box than to install it. http://www.amazon.com/Putco-230004HW...3+jeep+rubicon
Same harness I have. I've had to replace one relay but no complaints. If you replace the relays with ones that fit its like 25. However you can just buy $5 relays and transfer the wires if you're savvy
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Today's Jeeping: No response yet from OME, although they've had my e-mail for...well, a couple of days, now. I guess I'm going to have to try and manage it with a phone call.

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