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Unread 05-19-2013, 11:28 AM   #4636
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LAUGHING!!! I assure you it is a long way from a bad picture, likely as a result of the subject. If you say it is bad I challenge you to 1 up it. You may find quite the task ahead of you. Anna Belle, yet again you are an incredibly apt sport for continuing to contribute to our entertainment.
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She really is quite understanding; most people wouldn't put up with me. That being said, I'll see if I can do better, photo-wise, and I think I'll also see about shooting a quick coat of paint on the surplus radiator sometime later on. It's still pretty damp outside - seems to be that way that every other day, lately - but since this part really isn't terribly visible I won't mind if there are a couple of bubbles or wrinkles in the finish.

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Unread 05-19-2013, 11:47 AM   #4637
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I think I'll also see about shooting a quick coat of paint on the surplus radiator sometime later on. It's still pretty damp outside - seems to be that way that every other day, lately - but since this part really isn't terribly visible I won't mind if there are a couple of bubbles or wrinkles in the finish.
Bwahahahhahahahaa ... I see a base coat clear coat in your near future .
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Unread 05-19-2013, 04:19 PM   #4638
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Hey...Boobs + Jeep Parts + Bikini = All Of You Are Happy, Damn It.

However, you're not entirely correct about directional stability being a factor of either digital or film processes; I've found that I sometimes stare at a print on the wall for weeks and then randomly turn it upside down or 90 to one side and suddenly like it better.
No way will annabelle consent to doing handstand pics...
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Unread 05-19-2013, 05:31 PM   #4639
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Aren't you supposed to be installing control arms?

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No way will annabelle consent to doing handstand pics...
Take my advice on this one, man: don't give her ideas.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 07:16 PM   #4640
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Here's a bit of something to tide everyone over until the louvering can be completed...

Radiator Replacement - Part One

So, it seems that there was a slight and unexpected incident earlier...

Pictured: Sasha called, too, but since everyone wants to see Jeep carnage I went with this. You're welcome.




The above would be the remains of a radiator patch, which worked a LOT better than I ever would have expected...especially given the fact that the patch itself was constructed from JB Weld and window screening. In fact, I would say that it worked perfectly right up until the moment it decided to fail...a moment which was not spectacular or face-melting at all; the patch simply cracked and depressurized the cooling system in a relatively tame manner. It was probably the least metal - and "metal" is an adjective, there, kids - breakage I've ever had...but it needed to be fixed, regardless. Thanks to a tip-off from The Beasley, I found a used TJ radiator about an hour from Muppet Labs; it was posted on a local forum along with a host of other parts that were torn off of the Carolina Metal Masters in-house project TJ. I posted a picture of it yesterday; if you're having trouble seeing the radiator itself, it can be seen beneath the polka-dotted areas.

After the money changed hands I spent an hour or so talking with the owners, Brian and Jeremey...and I can tell you that they were two of the nicest and most sociable people I've met in a long time; anyone who will delay their lunch and shoot the breeze with you while talking Jeeps and letting you fondle the 7075 billet brake hubs for a trophy truck is usually a stand-up kind of person, and these fellas were no exception. If I'd taken a few more dollars with me I would have picked up a set of their hood de-snubbers and an aluminum footman loop while I was there; I saw first-rate machining on both products, and they looked like the perfect finishing touch for Greta's louver panel installation...so I'll be ordering some in the very near future. That's a story for another time, though: here's a less-cluttered picture of the surplus part.

Not Pictured: Distracting elements.




$75 for a metal-tanked radiator that's in good shape and only has about 4,000 miles of usage; that's a decent deal. I spent a bit in gas for the hour-long drive each way, but that was a small price to pay for making the acquaintance of some decent people that seem to know what they're doing, motorsports-wise. If I'd been thinking about doing so at the time, I would have snapped a few pictures of the 600-HP 5.3 that's going in the TJ that this radiator came out of...but I wasn't thinking; I was busy being distracted by the twin F9 housings that are also going into that TJ...and no, I didn't get a shot of those, either. Axle-porn has to wait for another day; instead, this thread will stay halfway on-topic (for once) and we will all examine a not-quite-as-interesting yet freshly-painted radiator.

Pictured: And come to think of it, this would probably be a lot more interesting of an image if there were boobs in it.




After we got a coat or two of paint on the tanks and mounting flanges - and a bit on the fins - Annabelle took a small hobby knife and set to work straightening the few fin edges that were slightly bent from some sort of minor impact in the past. There really weren't too many to work back out and the ones that were bent were only bent on the ultra-thin outer edges; it really does seem to be a lightly-used radiator.

Pictured: Also, I was right; this is a more interesting image.




I shot some more paint on the fins but it didn't seem to make much of a difference; there are too many little nooks and crannies and the paint just doesn't reach into those areas very well. After that coat dried, I turned the radiator over to find that the obverse side was in very good shape as well; no real damage or rust to speak of, and reasonably free of oil or other fluids. I blew off the dust and debris with compressed air and found myself with a surface that actually looked a lot better than the front.

Pictured: There's not even much rust at the inlet and outlet; seems that they used the proper coolant.




It started raining right about the time that I got the backside cleaned off, so I didn't get around to painting it. I did, however, snap a quick picture of the automatic transmission cooling circuit...

Pictured: Shown here with barbed fittings that are keeping soon-to-be-applied paint out of the threads.




...because I wanted a teaser shot for some upcoming exploratory surgery: I'm going to cut the lower tank apart on Greta's stock radiator and hopefully determine the feasibility of converting the cooling circuit into a water-heating circuit for an on-board shower. Making use of an existing heat-exchanger would drastically reduce the cost of that particular project and would be vital information for anyone else that's attempting a similar feat of engineering.


Yeah, I know...reading about actual work and build-tech in this thread feels weird. Stay tuned...there's more coming.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 07:34 PM   #4641
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I had never heard of those guys until they posted the parts for sale , looks like it was worth the drive . They have some nice looking stuff on their site , wish someone had taken some shop pics ...
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I am truly grateful for a husband who takes flattering pictures - - and for all of the wonderful compliments, birthday greetings, and other comments that have been sent my way!

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...wish someone had taken some shop pics ...
This is why one should always have a camera!

Carolina Metal Masters had an AWESOME shop. I was drooling over their CNC machine, large blasting cabinet, tube bender, metal brake...(wistful sigh). The trucks and JK's sitting around had solid upgrades and good finish-out. Also, they are willing to do custom projects...which as we learned with the half-cab is a complete rarity around here. Brian and Jeremey truly enjoy their work, which in my opinion allows for someone to do their best work. The only problem is that now I'm bugging my husband even more for a shop in our backyard!
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Unread 05-19-2013, 10:45 PM   #4643
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Wow, what a warm welcome!

Carolina Metal Masters had an AWESOME shop.
Welcome to the forum! You're already pretty well known around here CMM makes some really cool stuff, but I don't think I can afford any of their stuff
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This is why one should always have a camera!
Its a shame you dont know anyone with a camera , or cameras , or all of the cameras left in the Triad .

BTW welcome to the board .
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I had never heard of those guys until they posted the parts for sale , looks like it was worth the drive . They have some nice looking stuff on their site , wish someone had taken some shop pics ...
I may go back down there to pick up the footman loop, and if I do I'll grab some shots of whatever's in the area; any of the JK guys would have an episode if they saw the stuff that was parked outside.

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It's nicely-made, though, and worth the cost if it's what you want.

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Its a shame you dont know anyone with a camera , or cameras , or all of the FILM cameras left in the Triad .
Fixed that for you.
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I may go back down there to pick up the footman loop, and if I do I'll grab some shots of whatever's in the area; any of the JK guys would have an episode if they saw the stuff that was parked outside.



It's nicely-made, though, and worth the cost if it's what you want.



Fixed that for you.
Film was inferred ...
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I've found that I sometimes stare at a print on the wall for weeks
I hear you there And Welcome Anna Belle! I look forward to reading your build as well!
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Film was inferred ...
Ahh...see, you have to clarify yourself when you step back into my archaic stomping grounds. With that said, I still want to get myself a small digital point-and-shoot of some sort; I need to go play with a few and see what I like, because control layouts are paramount to me. Cameras are just like firearms; if they don't sit well in the hand and fit you properly and instinctively, you'll never really use one very well.

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And Welcome Anna Belle! I look forward to reading your build as well!
Hers is the easier one...at least, it will be, after we get her bed partition figured out. Everything on Greta is sort of a prototype...but by the time we build second or third versions of things most of the bugs should be worked out.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 02:37 PM   #4650
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I didn't read anything after Anna Belle and Bed. What are we talking about again?
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