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Unread 04-18-2012, 07:01 PM   #361
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I wonder why the new rotors didnt fit over the existing huib assembly?? That seems kind of screwy to me, unless that set-up was not made for your jeep. It doesnt make sense to have to grind them down 1/8".
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The rotors/calipers/pads in question are not Jeep specific. That's why they require grinding.
...but I'm going to complicate the f*** out of it, anyway.

You can get a Centric premium rotor, a premium Bosch caliper and Black Magic pads that are all direct stock replacements. They're higher quality and they bolt right up. The rotor will be the stock 11"-and-change diameter and will fit with no issues whatsoever. When I mentioned direct-fit "pad and rotor upgrades" in previous posts I was talking about these kind of parts. Better quality, better braking, stock fitment. No modifications necessary at all.

However, the parts I installed were never intended to fitted to the TJ's steering knuckles. The rotors are not a direct bolt-on...nor are the calipers, the saddles, or the pads. The rotors are nearly an inch larger in diameter, have shorter hats, and have the same bolt pattern...they're actually a stock replacement for a 2005+ Explorer Sport Trac. Likewise the calipers and saddles and pads are nothing even close to "stock replacement"...they are larger, stronger, more efficient and more powerful. The price you pay for this increased capacity is the necessity for modification.

Thus, you are quite correct to say that the components were not factory-designed to fit on a Jeep...but this does not mean that they can't be used in any given application. This is true with all parts. Nobody intended for Ford 8.8 axles to fit under TJ's...but they do. Nobody intended to be able to shoehorn Dana 60's and T-18 transmissions and portal boxes under Jeeps...but they still fit. It's just a matter of the amount of work involved to make them bolt up.

What Savvy and Vanco have done is find parts that take the least amount of modification necessary in order to be fitted on the TJ front end while still giving the massive increases in braking performance that are desired. They do the necessary machine-work on the knuckles, provide brackets for the calipers and saddles, and package it with the best rotors, pads and calipers they can get: they form a kit that the average Jeep owner can bolt on in their garage. When you recall the fact that none of these parts were ever designed to bolt onto a TJ, it's amazing that the unit-bearing clearance grinding is the only thing that needs to be done.

So, long answer...but the gist of it is this: no matter that grinding was involved this kit was expressly designed to bolt onto my Jeep with a minimal amount of work.

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Unread 04-18-2012, 07:05 PM   #362
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HDGoPro seems to be the camera. Mrs. Skeets has been hinting about how great one of those would be for when we go 4-wheeling....

Hmmm.. our anniversary is coming up..........
That's a thought, as well. I was considering a basic digital with a housing. I can build any kind of mounting system that I want, as long as the camera body has a standard tripod thread. I'll look into this option, though. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Unread 04-18-2012, 07:07 PM   #363
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HDGoPro seems to be the camera..

Exactly what I was going to recommend. I've got one and have found it extremely fun to use the suction cup mount to stick it on my windshield, rear quarter panel, the hard top of the Jeep in front of me when wheeling, etc. HD Video in a unit smaller than 2 packs of tic-tacs. Can't beat that!!!
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Cleaning this thing up is similar to a slightly abused pornstar throwing on a bunch of makeup to try to hide her eternal scars, but I think she doesn't look too bad
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Unread 04-18-2012, 07:41 PM   #364
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I was trying to get Sundowner to post a video of Annabelle in the Jeep and all ya'll have done is turn it into a high-tech production.
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Unread 04-18-2012, 08:55 PM   #365
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just finished a copy of deans electronics so if you need any help...let me know
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Unread 04-18-2012, 09:19 PM   #366
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Way to over complicate things Mr. Technical geesh.
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Unread 04-18-2012, 10:15 PM   #367
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Way to over complicate things Mr. Technical geesh.
I think you did a better job than I did.
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Unread 04-18-2012, 11:16 PM   #368
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I think you did a better job than I did.
I will be printing this on high quality photo paper and having professionally framed, becuase this phrase will never be uttered again!!
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Unread 04-19-2012, 07:52 AM   #369
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Interesting build thread. It would be more interesting if there were pictures of Annabelle on every page. Going 5 pages without a pic is just unacceptable.
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Unread 04-19-2012, 07:53 AM   #370
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Interesting build thread. It would be more interesting if there were pictures of Annabelle on every page. Going 5 pages without a pic is just unacceptable.
Speaking of Annabelle, when will she be making an appearance in the hottest wife/girlfriend thread?
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Unread 04-19-2012, 09:29 AM   #371
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Interesting build thread. It would be more interesting if there were pictures of Annabelle on every page. Going 5 pages without a pic is just unacceptable.
If you're not careful I'm going to wait until bathing suit weather and then take a snapshot of Annabelle riding around in her Jeep with a couple of other ridiculously attractive girls...and if you were to see all of them cavorting about in a pretty red LJ you would likely die from some sort of cerebral episode while staring at the computer screen. I was trying to protect you from the perilous overload of pure hotness...but no: you have a death wish. So, with that said: Nicole, Mindy, Jen, Stephanie...I'm going to need a quick favor.

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Speaking of Annabelle, when will she be making an appearance in the hottest wife/girlfriend thread?
I hadn't considered that...but now that I've given it .04 seconds of thought: probably right around the time I take that picture I just mentioned.
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Unread 04-19-2012, 09:57 AM   #372
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If you're not careful I'm going to wait until bathing suit weather and then take a snapshot of Annabelle riding around in her Jeep with a couple of other ridiculously attractive girls...and if you were to see all of them cavorting about in a pretty red LJ you would likely die from some sort of cerebral episode while staring at the computer screen. I was trying to protect you from the perilous overload of pure hotness...but no: you have a death wish. So, with that said: Nicole, Mindy, Jen, Stephanie...I'm going to need a quick favor.
I'll take the risk!
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Unread 04-19-2012, 10:36 AM   #373
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I hadn't considered that...but now that I've given it .04 seconds of thought: probably right around the time I take that picture I just mentioned.
Good. That thread could use an upgrade.
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Unread 04-19-2012, 11:11 AM   #375
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Great Thread

Sundowner; excellent info', and stellar pic's (of Jeep too...LOL)......

Looking forward to more...
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