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post #1546 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 01:26 PM
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OK, I guess I'm just talking out of my *** then.


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post #1547 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 01:59 PM
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OK, I guess I'm just talking out of my *** then.
I guess so..

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post #1548 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 02:08 PM
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I guess so..
I'm not.

I spent a lot of time un-denting my body mount channel and lower edge of the tub to prove it. The devil is in the details and at a certain point, they will make a difference.

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post #1549 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 02:22 PM
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I'm not.

I spent a lot of time un-denting my body mount channel and lower edge of the tub to prove it. The devil is in the details and at a certain point, they will make a difference.
Mind explaining?

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post #1550 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 07:56 PM
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Mind explaining?
I'll second the request as I'm about to install some myself.

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post #1551 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 09:23 PM
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Blaine has explained why preloading your sliders is important... theres a thread on slider design.

Maintain, wheel, upgrade, repeat.

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post #1552 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 09:32 PM Thread Starter
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Blaine has explained why preloading your sliders is important... theres a thread on slider design.
Do you have a link? I tried searching for it.

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post #1553 of 2548 Old 07-22-2013, 09:41 PM
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Do you have a link? I tried searching for it.
I think its actually a picture request thread about sliders on JF.

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post #1554 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 04:56 AM
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Mind explaining?
I'm curious too, if you have time.

I've gathered you know a little about suspension design


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post #1555 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 06:22 AM
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Sorry for the delay. You preload the sliders so that when they are exposed to the high dynamic forces of dropping off a ledge onto a rock (or similar), the fasteners don't distort. When fasteners distort, the plate moves and the tub goes with it.

Still one of the best slider design/theory threads ever: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/in...s-pics-134553/

You can see the early days of Blaine's design coming to fruition.

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post #1556 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 06:43 AM
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Still one of the best slider design/theory threads ever: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/in...s-pics-134553/

You can see the early days of Blaine's design coming to fruition.
Yup thats it. You'll also read why mounting from the bottom is important especially when you have a tube/step on the outside for leverage.

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post #1557 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 07:58 AM Thread Starter
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Sorry for the delay. You preload the sliders so that when they are exposed to the high dynamic forces of dropping off a ledge onto a rock (or similar), the fasteners don't distort. When fasteners distort, the plate moves and the tub goes with it.

Still one of the best slider design/theory threads ever: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/in...s-pics-134553/

You can see the early days of Blaine's design coming to fruition.
Thanks for the link man. Ill read through that today.

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post #1558 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 08:31 AM Thread Starter
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Okay I think I understand it now. You're basically just making it so the sliders are as close to being part of the tub as possible, right? You don't want any gaps or space.

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post #1559 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
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So apparently my tires only measure out to ~31.5".

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post #1560 of 2548 Old 07-23-2013, 09:13 AM
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Okay I think I understand it now. You're basically just making it so the sliders are as close to being part of the tub as possible, right? You don't want any gaps or space.
Well, that....but you're actively forcing the two together to create a single assembly. You can install sliders to have no gap very easily without preloading at all.

Here's the best indicator for preload vs. none. If you unbolt the sliders then try to bolt them up by hand with no other force acting on them, the bolt hole in the slider and the hole in the tub will not fully line up. That also goes for nutserts. A greater force than what you can apply by hand needs to be exerted on the assembly to allow installation. In order to get that, you have to drill all holes when the slider is vertically and laterally preloaded.

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