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Unread 04-24-2011, 04:23 PM   #46
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No updates. I pulled it out of the shop so I could work on my other truck and got some good pictures. I also picked up 5 fabtech shocks from a buddy of mine.











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Unread 05-01-2011, 06:24 PM   #47
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I did some garage wheelin today. lol
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Unread 05-01-2011, 07:13 PM   #48
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So you took the time to remove the tub, do some of the body work, build a good/strong looking cage and swap in fullwidths, but left yourself with a horrific shackle angle...? That thing is going to ride like dogass, and from those pictures you can see it has next to nothing for usable droop. I'd recommend running some longer/flatter leaves if you're not going to move the shackle mounts around, unless all you plan on doing is bro-ing up some mud bogs. I know someone asked, but is that front axle a 78-79? It looks like you ground some of the cast wedges off, which is no problem on an older axle but on a 78-79 it's a structural part of the tube and I'd guarantee it's only a matter of time before there's a failure with those 38's. It looks like you're off to a decent start, and have the skills, but you ignored some of the most important aspects of the build.
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Unread 05-01-2011, 07:26 PM   #49
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I like where this build is going...
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Unread 05-02-2011, 06:03 AM   #50
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So you took the time to remove the tub, do some of the body work, build a good/strong looking cage and swap in fullwidths, but left yourself with a horrific shackle angle...? That thing is going to ride like dogass, and from those pictures you can see it has next to nothing for usable droop. I'd recommend running some longer/flatter leaves if you're not going to move the shackle mounts around, unless all you plan on doing is bro-ing up some mud bogs. I know someone asked, but is that front axle a 78-79? It looks like you ground some of the cast wedges off, which is no problem on an older axle but on a 78-79 it's a structural part of the tube and I'd guarantee it's only a matter of time before there's a failure with those 38's. It looks like you're off to a decent start, and have the skills, but you ignored some of the most important aspects of the build.
Yes I think that it is a 78-79. I didn't touch the cast wedges, just the old brackets. And by moving the shackles around do you mean move it to the back of the leaf rather than the front were it is now. Or could I just move were the leaf mounts to the frame, If I moved the forward I would have a better shackle angle? What is the best way to do it? Will I get any more flex by doing it?
Thanks for the input I appreciate it. Let me know what you think will work best.
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Unread 05-02-2011, 03:59 PM   #51
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Your best bet for more wheel travel is different/longer springs, but the cheapest way would be to move the upper shackle mount. For all around driving/wheeling what you want to see is a ~45* shackle angle, that will offer the best compromise between up/down travel. If you go shallower(more horizontal) you will end up with more down travel than uptravel, and vice versa. Since you have fab skills, and just bought new springs, I would recommend moving where the shackle bolts to the frame closer to the center pin of the spring. This will drop the rig a little as you do it, and the further you move it the more it will drop, but you can make up for that with longer shackles if the need arrives. The longer shackle will also allow for more wheel travel by creating a longer arc of travel. You may look into throwing the stock springs back in if you still have them, mount them SOA like you have, then run some longer shackles at a decent angle. This will keep you close to the height it is now, hopefully a little lower for more stability, while increasing the overall performance of the suspension. If you wanted to mess with your wheelbase, you could move the front mount of the rear spring towards the center pin instead, which would end up giving you the same end result of a better shackle angle, while adding stability by lengthening the wheelbase. Nah mean?
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Unread 05-02-2011, 05:44 PM   #52
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IMO I think that it is to high. One of my stock springs were broke that is why I got new ones. I would like to put some 2.5" leafs on it and I still might if I could find a set cheap. And so what you are saying with my shackles is, I want them to be at 45*. Both my front and rear shackles. I would really like to stretch it. So I did some measuring and to get my shackles a 45* I need to move were my spring mount to the frame closer to the centering pin of the leaf spring by about 3". This would give me about 6" of stretch total witch would be great. Let me know if this sounds right, because I want this thing to perform well on the trails and get as much wheel travel as possible. I am also planning on using boom shackles.
Thanks again for the help.
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Unread 05-02-2011, 07:11 PM   #53
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It sounds like you're on the right track, but be wary of how far you stretch the front, or else you'll run into issues with the steering. I don't know how far you can go on a YJ, I've never done it, but ask around in the YJ section I'm sure people know. If you're buying new springs anyway, look for longer ones, as they will help with travel as well. Here's a link to a great thread, and the 'spring bible' in it is awesome. Granted the thread itself is about XJ's, but there is a lot of useful info regardless. Take your time and compare the eye-to-eye measurement, as well as the A and B measurements so you get the right spring for your rig.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...highlight=totm
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Unread 05-07-2011, 07:28 PM   #54
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I got started on the rear stretch. Let me know how my shackle angles look now.






It hard to tell but it is at about 36*, that is under full weight. I had it a 45* but it just looked like to much of an angle.
Let me know how it looks.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 07:36 PM   #55
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IMO, just get some longer shackles and your good to go.

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Unread 05-07-2011, 07:42 PM   #56
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Yes, my plans are to run a little longer shackle.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 08:19 PM   #57
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Lookin' good! Whats the wheelbase measure now?
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Unread 05-07-2011, 08:21 PM   #58
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It measures around 96.5" with the rear stretch. I am hopping to have it close to 100" when the front is all done.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 08:39 PM   #59
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Unread 05-08-2011, 06:30 PM   #60
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The front stretch is pretty much done, just needs some adjustment. Now for my shackles, what should I use. I need longer ones so how much longer should I go? Should I go with boom shackles or just longer ones? if you have a good link or a pic that would be great.
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