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Unread 11-09-2011, 12:39 AM   #1
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From Tj To Rubicon

OK Im sure that this has been touch on before. I have a 97 TJ. Four cylinder. I have found a 06 rubicon. I want to swap all the running gear over to my rig. both 44's the trans and t case with the 6 cylinder. My TJ has a 4 cylinder and the dana 35 and 30. Can anyone give me some insight as to how monumental of a task is this? Thanks. I welcome any PM's from the forum.

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Unread 11-09-2011, 01:14 AM   #2
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What's wrong with the Rubi that you want to strip it of it's dignity?
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Unread 11-09-2011, 01:23 AM   #3
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Better get permission from the owner first
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Unread 11-09-2011, 01:23 AM   #4
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What's wrong with the Rubi that you want to strip it of it's dignity?
Something wrong with that Fuzz?


OP, unless there is something wrong with the Rubi I suggest you just use it and not bother with the swap. Seems like way more trouble than it is worth.

Swapping the axles is a simple matter of unbolting from the Rubi and bolting onto the 4banger, but the engine swap is a completely different matter. I'm no expert, but there are a lot of differences not only between 4 cyl and 6 cyl models, but also between early and late model TJs. It could be done, but in my opinion the amount of work required would not be worth it, especially if there is nothing wrong with the Rubicon you would be neutering.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 01:54 PM   #5
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Yeah dude you're probably just better off swapping whatever mods you have from the 97 to the rubi
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Unread 11-09-2011, 02:03 PM   #6
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Something wrong with that Fuzz?


OP, unless there is something wrong with the Rubi I suggest you just use it and not bother with the swap. Seems like way more trouble than it is worth.

Swapping the axles is a simple matter of unbolting from the Rubi and bolting onto the 4banger, but the engine swap is a completely different matter. I'm no expert, but there are a lot of differences not only between 4 cyl and 6 cyl models, but also between early and late model TJs. It could be done, but in my opinion the amount of work required would not be worth it, especially if there is nothing wrong with the Rubicon you would be neutering.
lol neutering...

And this should be moved to the tech section...
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Unread 11-09-2011, 05:53 PM   #7
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Something wrong with that Fuzz?
Keep your dirty little secret to yourself.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 07:19 PM   #8
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Oh man! I guess I did not give enough info on my posting. The rubicon that I have found is rolled. The truck is really messed up. I can get a good deal on picking up the truck a whole. So is guess a better question is it better to do a frame off and swap tubs or to attempt to move the running gear over to my TJ. I hope this makes more sense.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 07:21 PM   #9
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Swap the tubs, unless the frame is bent.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 07:31 PM   #10
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A frame off swap is an okay idea if the frame on the rubi wasn't tweaked in the roll. In my experience most Jeep roll-overs result in frame damage. When I rebuilt my LJ it had been in a roll-over and screwed up the frame pretty good. Without seeing the damage myself though I can't make any assumption as to whether this is the case with yours.

But, as I said before, there are differences between early and late model TJs. I have no idea whether this would effect you in a frame off swap (I've only ever done frame off swaps between 2 late model TJs), so you will need to look into that before persuing that possibility. Also, this would be a pretty big job, and that's assuming you have the right tools to do so. At the very least you could take the axles and part out the rest. Before you buy I also suggest you inspect the axles, transfer case, and transmission for any damage from the wreck. If any of them are damaged then your investment will lose value big time.
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