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post #2191 of 3547 Old 07-23-2013, 04:12 PM
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It is expensive. I did quite a bit of research since you posted in my thread the other day. Reids (500) would allow you to run larger GM stock brakes and lock outs (almost 500 for bearings, brakes, lock out and other parts) but you still have to do steering links (150+), high steer arms (300), and then figure out the track bar mount and all that. I am in a process of re-thinking everything.


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post #2192 of 3547 Old 07-23-2013, 04:40 PM
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And you're still stuck with a LP front axle, small ball joints and unit bearings, and a pretty flexible housing. I'm all about maximizing the axle that you're gonna run long-term and if that's it, go for it. But even using that methodology, it doesn't make sense to me......and I've thought good and hard about it way more than once. The gains are just not nearly worth the work, money spent, and resale value added if you decide to ever sell it.

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post #2193 of 3547 Old 07-23-2013, 05:53 PM
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You just need to buy the axle I'm selling right now. HP 44, 1/2 wall tubes, arb, 4.56 gears, 63" wide, warn premium hubs, chromo shafts, ctms and ready to bolt into a TJ. Aaaaand I get really nice deals on shipping, so that wouldn't be a killer.
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post #2194 of 3547 Old 07-23-2013, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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Don't you already have vanco's?


If it were me I would run the savvy currie steering with Blaine's bolt on currie assist setup. It's easy and simple. Plus I'm pretty sure all you would have to buy is the brackets from Blaine plus everything needed for hydro assist

High steer. Crossover. Whatever you wanna call it is a waste of time IMO on factory axles. Not to mention if and or when you go bigger axles. Stock housings have a much better resale than custom ones. Ask anyone

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DEFINITELY not worth it on that axle. Run Currie steering and put the tie rod on top of the driver's side knuckle. Run the Savvy tie rod if you want to get really fancy.

Save the Reids and $$ parts for an axle that will have higher limits.
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It is expensive. I did quite a bit of research since you posted in my thread the other day. Reids (500) would allow you to run larger GM stock brakes and lock outs (almost 500 for bearings, brakes, lock out and other parts) but you still have to do steering links (150+), high steer arms (300), and then figure out the track bar mount and all that. I am in a process of re-thinking everything.
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And you're still stuck with a LP front axle, small ball joints and unit bearings, and a pretty flexible housing. I'm all about maximizing the axle that you're gonna run long-term and if that's it, go for it. But even using that methodology, it doesn't make sense to me......and I've thought good and hard about it way more than once. The gains are just not nearly worth the work, money spent, and resale value added if you decide to ever sell it.
My thought process behind considering this option despite already owning a Vanco kit, savvy tie rod, flip kit, and high clearance sway bar brackets is that I was thinking if it was possible to sell all of it and potentially do a custom steering and have enough money left over for hydro assist therefore not spending much out of pocket.

I also looked into the hydro assist on a currie steering but that would involve spending another $1500. It seems to be the consensus best approach but I just wanted to explore my options.

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You just need to buy the axle I'm selling right now. HP 44, 1/2 wall tubes, arb, 4.56 gears, 63" wide, warn premium hubs, chromo shafts, ctms and ready to bolt into a TJ. Aaaaand I get really nice deals on shipping, so that wouldn't be a killer.
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post #2195 of 3547 Old 07-23-2013, 07:08 PM
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My thought process behind considering this option despite already owning a Vanco kit, savvy tie rod, flip kit, and high clearance sway bar brackets is that I was thinking if it was possible to sell all of it and potentially do a custom steering and have enough money left over for hydro assist therefore not spending much out of pocket.

I also looked into the hydro assist on a currie steering but that would involve spending another $1500. It seems to be the consensus best approach but I just wanted to explore my options.



Thanks for the offer but Ill be making the best of this one
Just do the hydro assist and be done, Jeep works *****ing the way it is

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Just do the hydro assist and be done, Jeep works *****ing the way it is
Seriously, this.

You've got darn near everything you'd have with the Reids already--nice steering, nice brakes, nice clearance under the tie rod.

And if you don't want to do it all at once, do the box/pump/cooler and hold off for the rest. I can assure you you'll be able to steer with your pinky @ idle on gravel with just those items.

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post #2197 of 3547 Old 07-23-2013, 08:15 PM
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seriously, this.
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post #2198 of 3547 Old 07-24-2013, 07:07 AM Thread Starter
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Just do the hydro assist and be done, Jeep works *****ing the way it is
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Seriously, this.
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post #2199 of 3547 Old 07-25-2013, 06:59 PM
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Fair enough, that was the original plan so I guess I'll stick with that
Hey man, depending on your budget, just pull the trigger on the entire assist kit.
Mine is arriving tomorrow and getting done on the 5th.


By the time you buy the steering gear, pump, and cooler you're almost all the way there anyway.

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post #2200 of 3547 Old 07-26-2013, 07:03 AM Thread Starter
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Hey man, depending on your budget, just pull the trigger on the entire assist kit.
Mine is arriving tomorrow and getting done on the 5th.


By the time you buy the steering gear, pump, and cooler you're almost all the way there anyway.
Where did you purchase it from? Last I read up on it you have to order some things from PSC and others from Blaine.

Also what'd it cost?

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post #2201 of 3547 Old 07-26-2013, 08:16 AM
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Where did you purchase it from? Last I read up on it you have to order some things from PSC and others from Blaine.

Also what'd it cost?
I ordered the kit and cooler from Quad, because I have a friend there.
I didn't need to order anything from Blaine, but did order a SS tie rod clamp mount with tabs from Poly.
With the steering and track bar set up on my rubi, the assist cylinder will now be bold on short of welding the tabs onto the SS (synergy suspension) TR clamp.

The newest 03 to 06 kit from psc is said to be complete and was 1.6k and change including the cooler.
I got a little better of a price but not much.

But like I said by the time you price the box ($742), pump with res.($449), hose ($25), and cooler which is up to ($125) depending on the type you choose.

Your already in the $1340 realm what's another couple hundred dollars and getting the cylinder done all at the same time.

I'll post pics once my is done.

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PSC's hydro assist setup is worth every penny Lu ...

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post #2203 of 3547 Old 07-27-2013, 07:26 PM
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I'm not suggesting this as a viable alternative, I am simply asking a question: the psc steering box seems to be 50% of their system cost. Is it possible to get your current factory box ported? Are there instructions available for this?

I am just curious because psc is the premier brand, I am familiar with the "pay to play" mentality but there must be lower cost alternatives.

I wouldn't trust the following kit without researching it thoroughly but the cost is certainly a good start to a system. You would need to port your box, get a pump/ reservoir and a coolers still...

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/s.../ramassist.htm

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post #2204 of 3547 Old 07-27-2013, 07:31 PM
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I heard Mike know's how to tap a stock pump for hydro.....
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