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Unread 03-25-2012, 06:20 PM   #46
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well, until i have access to the auto skills center on base after work on Wednesday here's what has been going on.

i woke up this fine sunday morning and skipped my cup of joe in my favorite mug.


Went right outside. To see this. The leaky tire from treadwright lost a little more than expected in 14 hours of sitting still.


Pulled the heep from the driveway into the garage to check over all my bolts now that ive driven it about5 miles since the lift install. And so i could jack it up on a level surface pull the leaky tire and plug it. NOTE TO OTHERS. If you get a tire from treadwright. Document with photo's of leak and make your claim before you attempt to fix the tire. Otherwise you void the warranty. And since they have amazing customer service they're sending me another one at no cost. Shipped the day i made the claim. Told me to fix the leaky one and enjoy the full size spare

EPIC CUSTOMER SERVICE, so i used the magic leak finding water. (dawn and hose water)


Plugged and slimed for a second measure.

While the black and decker air comp filled the tire back up i started checking the rear end suspension for any loose items. Aside from the shocks being out.

first place i check, i find this..

I blame ratm for this since he did most of the rear end passanger side
just kidding man, Thanks for your help.

Checking all the others, I was reaching up high to the old uca spot to check the drop brackets bolts for tightness accidently arced the starter i need to replace the lower tranny fluid cooler line anyway since i had to cut the fitting off when i put in the csf 3 row anyway and damaged it.

picture of the drop brackets and whatnot for everyone else to see




So back to these shock bolts that i broke off, My daily commute is about 1.2 miles each way. and i never go over 25 mph. So im not really fretting the idea of no rear shocks for that drive. I want them, because i want to drive more than just to work. but these little buggers...

probably cant see it in the picture, but i attempted to drill them out. and it was going at a decent pace. until about 2/3 of the way through the screw it just stopped making progress, and then it happened... The drill bit broke off inside. I think im going to just take this to a shop in the local area and say.
Three bolts for them to torch out. shouldnt cost to much, well worth the efforts saved. i hate cleaning metal shavings off. ill install the shocks after that.

So basically i gave up on the shocks and decided it was time to finally change my brakes since the great brake fire of 2012. roaring 1 inch flame off my rotor. lost alot of good men that day.

heres the old stuff on the passanger side (the side that didnt catch fire)


rotors came off pretty easy. i couldnt do it by hand but one clean hit with a ballpeen knocked them loose enough for me to get them off.
Passanger side was clean. One hit on the drivers side knocked all this stuff out


While i had it all down i put in my new rough country SS brake lines that came with the kit. Pretty legit. straight forward. Remember before you disconnect to depress the brake pedal. This closes off the MC, And when you open the line it only allows the fluid in the lines/calipers to bleed out. Not your whole resevoir. Ask me how i know
Take the caliper off the rotor first, otherwise it will be clamped down and you cant get it off lol.
I used my jack bar and my wonderful electric seats to hold the brake down while i worked on it.



Rotors off

Old next to new Centric premiums.


Put them on, Put the new calipers on and the new brake pads. EBC yellow stuff. Aswell as the wheel spacers. Which i didnt really need to put on, but since i bought them initially i figured id see if i liked it. I dont think i do so they might be up for sale soon.

With the 10.5" tires my stance looks a little wide...

It doesnt really stick out to far past the stock fenders..


But it looks kind of to far out for those skinny tires. Like my axles are to wide or something. Ehh ill see if it grows on me. If not ill have a Set up for sale.


So i got my wife to help me bleed the brakes. Never done that before so i hope i did it right. The brake light went out. and the brakes apply soooo. I guess i did it right. lol
I know i used the right method. Just not sure if i did it enough.

Took it for a ride to the bx, I like to park out far so no one touches it!


Cheers guys, ill have more up here on Thursday. Wish me luck on the hNt, And with the alignment and sloppy ride issues.

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Unread 03-25-2012, 06:44 PM   #47
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I blame ratm for this since he did most of the rear end passanger side
just kidding man, Thanks for your help.
"You get what you pay for" and "Good help is hard to find" both come to mind on this lol
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Unread 03-25-2012, 06:46 PM   #48
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"You get what you pay for" and "Good help is hard to find" both come to mind on this lol
free help is the best kind of help, but is it really free if i know its going to come back around? where was your tech data.. Fail. Im de certing you.
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Unread 04-15-2012, 11:11 PM   #49
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Working out the kinks.

Well its been about 2 weeks since the lift kit, And about 3 weeks since the motor rebuild So i changed the oil and Re tightened all the nuts and bolts with my good friends airtools

Anyways, Pics First Talk second.

of course i go out of my way to park next to stocker's i see on base. Especially when they make more money than me


And the vibes were pretty Freakin Epic in a whole variety of speed ranges.
I bough the Iro HnT A while back, As well as the refurbed Ds And the bit's and tap. 20 dollars well spent in hindsight. BUY THE BITS. Worked like a charm. Tapping took forever. Slow and steady wins The race. So Here's how it went down.

First of. Spend 30 bucks. Buy this bad boy.

Second, When your buying that. Buy the two Cut off disc. FOR METAL. they are like 1.30 each. Buy a few incase your a twitchy twicther and end up shredding a disc into your face like so.


Yes that is me. And relax mr safety. He was just smoothing some bumpstops down on his fancy pants toyota. My eyes were protected.

So, You disconnect your Stock D/s Down at the Rear axle pinion. 4 bolts. Pull the little brackets off and keep them safe. It might take a good knock with a hammer of choice. Who cares your not re-using this DS. it wont take much so dont go all hulk Smash on this thing. Just a good love tap. Let it know you love it but your still in charge.

then slide the drive Shaft off of the stock 242 Output shaft and move your old DS to the Scrap bin (or craigslist like me)

Then take your measurment provided On the Iron rock offroad Instructions. For others. This task was very intimidating for some reason Pre operation. After you start doing it though. It is so simple. Relax. Your Xfer case will be fine.

So take you measurment. And mark it well. I used Some epic Tape aswell as the sharpie. Then start your motor. Put it in drive and let that baby spin.
REMEMBER TO GO TO NEUTRAL and let it stop spinning when your done! not just right to park! their I said it.

Feel The Power!

I only had one glove on my hand closest to the action. AND SAFETY GLASSES! DO NOT SKIP the Glasses. Sweet jesus protect the googlies.

Cut and cut, And you end up with this.

I have a video of the whole thing. But it wont upload Right now.

Then you Find your center. I put the new yolk over the Output shaft and used a hammer and punch to hit center. Dont freak if its not perfectly Center.

Also your drill is going to walk when you first start. Be ready to compensate for that.

Throughout the drilling process back in and out. And try to provide some sort of cutting/cooling lubricant. I used P/b Blaster and it worked fine.
Then after you get the recommended distance inside the shaft (HEYO) blast some air in their and clean it out. Then Do it all over again with the Larger Drill bit provided by IRO. Then Tap it. Easy peasy....


Slide the new Yolk on. I Used some RTV to ensure the nut stayed in. and tighten it down. The tap provided By iro worked perfect with their hardware.

And Iro provided 4 stock length Xfer case bolts so after you install the Sye/ds you can take it back to Stock height and gain back that clearence you lost with the Drop kit im sure most of you were running.

NEW D/S Installed.


Drive SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH SMOOTHER. Feels so much better.


And as soon as i was done that i ended up helping my good friend for the next 4-5 days installing a 12" lift on his 2012 tundra so he could clear 40's and make me feel insignificant Running 32's.... (same guy earlier in my thread with the 4 runner) here's some pics of the tundra project "project RAWR!"








Just when i was starting to think i drove a big(er) truck.


Then i went To the junkyard for some Lebaron Hoodvents for my next project.
No dice.

I need to take a break from the vehicles (mine and friends) for a few weeks. My wife is starting to get a little mad. With good reason. It's been like a second job for the past month or two between mine and my friends.

I did get some time this weekend however to Detail My Vdub.

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Unread 08-01-2012, 10:24 AM   #50
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Been a while, lots of info to come soon. Ran into engine trouble. Decided better now than ever. Built a stroker and started it for the first time on the 30th of july 2012 at 12:30 a.m with 119,257 miles the jeep has a brand new engine
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Looks good! Clean XJ man! I love stock alloys on Jeeps!
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Looks good! Clean XJ man! I love stock alloys on Jeeps!
Thank's man! im getting all my pictures in order this evening. Then tommorow when im enjoying my thursday evening im going to go apesh!t and blow this thread up
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A long time comming

Well After i had the lift installed, Had just changed the head 800 miles ago, and changed my whole drivetrain/brakes. Of course the biggest fear would happen.

I lost compression in 5/6 cylinders. FML

Anyway. I always use something breaking as a sign to replace (and upgrade) at the same time.

So a stroker was on my list of "eventually s" well eventually came knocking right after i spent 2000 on all my other stuff. So i ended up spending another 1600 total to get my stroker build and swapped in.

Hopefully selling the old short block and a few other parts will put me back at 1000$ invested to have a disgusting torque monster installed in my heep.

Enough chat, time for pictures.

First of all to get some of this money i went on a little excersize with the military, and i had a little tumble.



Thanks co worker!

So i get back from that with about 600 bucks and it couldnt have come at a better time.

Since i lost compression i started searching for short blocks/other options.
when i stumbled onto a gem.

Prebuilt stroker short block from a fabricator in florida. (for the most part prebuilt)
The machine work had been done to the block, and all the parts for the bottem end had been purchased, machined and collected.

The owner had 2300 dollars invested so far in the project when times got tough. He was willing to let it all fall into my hands for 800 doll hairs.

I had to pinch pennies for a week or two because i couldnt pass that deal up.

I was however intimdated by the task, i had worked my own suspension, and changed the head myself, but the idea of buying a stroker dissasembled and trying to figure out all the stuff that needed to be done to make it work was insane. but if you just knuckle down and troll the internet (some call it discipline) i call it desperation.



8 days later i have this sitting in my car port



Took it to a local machine shop to get all the tolerances checked and the crank/pistons/cam and all that jazz installed

once it got home


Checking clearance (i didn't mill the deck or the head)


Everyone said to go with the double roller type timing chain, but ive heard it's easier for them to jump a tooth.
so i kept it real with the stock one



Picture of the cam.

here's the info on the block

92' 4.0 Block that had 55,000 miles bored over .030
bathed checked and machined by a shop in South Florida
Calculated CR of 9.6:1
4.2 Short nose crank. I belive thats the 4 coutner weight one.
6.125" connecting rods from 92'
amc 242 timing chain cover 92' cast
OE timing chain and gear set- NEW
Sealed power speed-pro Hypereutectic pistons for amc 242 4.0L .030" (new)
Sealed power main, Connecting rod and Cam shaft bearing STD. (new)
Crane cams Truck torque Cam For Amc 258 4.2L p/n 753905 (NEW)

Crankshaft stroke = 3.845
Rod lengths = 5.875
Piston diameter = 3.905
Piston height = 1.592
Head gasket height= .043
Quench height = 0.081
Deck Height = 9.453
Deck Clearance = .038

along with the 0331 head that's measured to 56.5cc's and got these specific to my build

8.86:1 CR
276.3 cubic in
4.53 liters (bear in mind the 4.0L is really 3.965 and the 4.2 is 4.129)
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Unread 08-07-2012, 09:22 PM   #54
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moaaaaaaaaar pictures,

So whenever i was trouble shooting it before i realized i lost compression. I thought it was an electrical issue, i tried in my off time for 13 days. Then i threw in the towel and had it taken to an electrical specialist. Never in my life have i paid someone to fix something because i couldn't.

This made me want to cry


Then 8 days later i get a call. "yeah man you lost compression, We can replace the rings for you but it will be a 1200 dollar and 2 week job"

**** that, so i towed it home with the help of a friend.

And tarped it. At this point i didnt care if god struck this thing down.
This is what defeat looks like.


So i pondered on it for a few weeks.
My wife and i looked into a jk.
I was going to build something along these lines.

But i had put to much work into it already to throw in the towel.

That's when i did the research that lead to where it is now, a stroked 2k limited xj. Defanitly the best looking xj in south carolina IMO

But we needed another vehicle for the time being, so a friend hooked us up with this little guy.

Anyway, here's more pics from the engine swap.
after the head was out.



ready to come out



my pops who drove from va to help


me giving it the salute



that was the first day.

Then we Relax like american's


New block built up in my dining room (my wife was totally okay with it) Im so lucky!!! (she helped pay for the stroker too!







stroker with the head swapped over



for referance

this is the old block. At full stroke (the blue line is full stroke on the stroker)
so you can see the differance in length

Getting me excited!!!

And guess what, at midnight on july 28th It started The first try!!!
i tried to upload the video, but it wont work.

ran it up, did my 20 minuite break in on the new cam. Drained the oil.

That's enough updates for today.

(im at 100 miles on the new engine. no issues.) knock on wood. well a few minor ones. a little coolant leak from my Brand new csf radiator, which they better replace. and my starter sounds like its on its way out.

Time for a mean green?

anyway. Party on garth.

these guys know how to party!
(the set off the fire supression system by accident)



take it easy guys
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Brutal to hear bout the XJ man. To quote Tim Allen..."Never Give Up AND Never Surrender!!!" Over bout 5 years of being on here you have easily the top ten cleanest Cherokees I have even seen. If anything just let it be for a lil bit till you can get the motivation to tackle the engine. 9/10 people just lift it up, chop it off and beat it up but you seemed like you wanted to keep it clean and honorable.

Even if it has to set for a bit don't let this gem go man
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Brutal to hear bout the XJ man. To quote Tim Allen..."Never Give Up AND Never Surrender!!!" Over bout 5 years of being on here you have easily the top ten cleanest Cherokees I have even seen. If anything just let it be for a lil bit till you can get the motivation to tackle the engine. 9/10 people just lift it up, chop it off and beat it up but you seemed like you wanted to keep it clean and honorable.

Even if it has to set for a bit don't let this gem go man
Thank you very much, comments like that make it entirely worth it, I'm happy to say that I'm at 300 miles on the new stroker. What an incredible difference. I managed to sell all my old parts I.e engine block and stuff. Brings my total stroker cost to 1040 dollars. Which might be the cheapest stroker build to date. Even without the larger throttle body ad exhaust, it's soooo much smoother. Totally worth all the greif, knock on wood. Anyway thank you again for your kind words
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No problem at all, Very Glad to hear you got it all sorted out and back on pavement. Its never hard to give credit to where credit is due. If my build turns out anything even REMOTELY close to yours I'd die a happy man, and that's no lie. You do excellent work and Thank you for your service. If anything hope to keep seeing up dates.

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Thank you very much, comments like that make it entirely worth it, I'm happy to say that I'm at 300 miles on the new stroker. What an incredible difference. I managed to sell all my old parts I.e engine block and stuff. Brings my total stroker cost to 1040 dollars. Which might be the cheapest stroker build to date. Even without the larger throttle body ad exhaust, it's soooo much smoother. Totally worth all the greif, knock on wood. Anyway thank you again for your kind words

Thumbs up for you man! What a project and way to never give up. Love reading your updates and posts! Keep it going!
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Well, my 23rd Birthday is en route. And my wonderful wife bought me a present....

It will be here first week of september. So i need some help from you guys. Do i line-x it. (only offering black) 100$ or primer and rattlecan it white trying to match my body?
Im kind of leaning towards white because i Feel like with the matching flares and a white rear bumper a black front end will take away from the whole "limited" which im really proud of..

400 miles On the stroker today. Changing back to a single row stock radiator tomorrow since csf cant get their **** together. And parts train.com sucks a$$hole. when i get back in a week i'll do my first oil change.

I also think with the new radiator im going to run 2 gallons of distilled water with one gallon of glycol/antifreeze. so like a 33/66 ratio of anti: to water. its hot as hell in Charleston. And i don't need that much anti freeze. one gallon in the system will be more than enough for the lubricant and the raised boiling point temperature. So i feel the extra 30% water will help keep it a little lower off-road. (this new stroker runs pretty warm)

Also this week i ran a manual over ride switch on the Stock auxiliary fan and today in traffic for 45 minutes at a crawl i can report back to say that the PCM still did its job and kicked it on automatically. It's cracked though so it vibrates like a son of a gun. Im going to try and find a junk yard replacement for my cracked aux fan.

The front suspension started making alot more of a "creaking noise" when i hit the brakes and it noses down. sounds like stress on metal if your familiar with that noise. ill have to rock the vehicle back and forth and put my hands on different components to try and narrow it down. Maybe the shocks? maybe the spring cups are just dry and rubbing the metal? i dont know. but im really not to worried about it.

take it easy fella's
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Jeep is looking sick man! Keep up the good work! Congrats on the birthday present! Your wife buys you jeep parts, you married a good one!
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