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canadiantj1999 01-14-2013 12:16 PM

Started on my hp60/14ff swap.
 
So, as the title states I recently started building my jeep to the next level.
Before the build I was running a hp30/8.8 axle combo with full 14" king coilovers all around on 37" mtr/k. I was very happy with this setup. I was able to navigate tons of trails around Michigan and the occasional rock pit. Had little trouble with the dana30, I know it's frowned apron, but that axle is now in another tj on 35s and still operating smoothly. So, back to the introduction. I was able to find a kingpin ford dana 60 of a 85 f350 that had been narrowed to wms of 65.5 and found a killer deal on a 14boltff wms 67.0". What I have done so far on the Dana 60 is replace the kingpins and bearings along with the knuckle. I installed a springless psc high steer arms along with a artec industries truss/ram mount. I went with Moser for my custom length axle shaft. Pure beef, the shaft measures to 1.61 all the way down to the 35 spline . I am going to gear it 5.38 with locker, not sure which one yet, I went with trail-gear gears because my friend is sponsored from them. So anything to help him keep his sponsorship. I also purchased XR series 8" double ram for the steering. So I'm sure I forgot something in the front. On the rear I went with UCF truss and pinion skid. Keep it simple. Use stock shafts and swap it to disc brakes. I'm tossing up the idea of shaving it with balistic fab kit. I made the lip gone already on the bottom and made it smooth,but I might have to mess with it more to make it mine or something. I am using a mixture of trail-gear joints and Johnny joint all around to keep the suspension bind free. But enough talk right now and here are a couple teaser photos.

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...6a5eae5c36.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...a9906df8b4.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...2d3dbb7393.jpg


I wil get more photos up when photobucket uploads them more, kinda slow Internet in middle of the jungle:thumbsup:

IEcrawlerTJ01 01-14-2013 01:50 PM

Haha non build related.

But what's the white mini willy's? A wagon or go kart or something?

canadiantj1999 01-14-2013 01:55 PM

Yeah it's mini cj3a flat fender. Cool little thing. I'm building my jeep in my dads garage. And I bought a tube bender so my dad is bending up a little chassis for that using some lawn tractor parts. He's gonna sell it when he's finished with it. He'll probably make some good cash on it

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IEcrawlerTJ01 01-14-2013 02:17 PM

Pretty sweet man

Cool build ya got goin to

canadiantj1999 01-14-2013 02:23 PM

So photobucket finally got the pics uploaded. Here are some more
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...060c54b632.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...7259d81a39.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...e9aba6477b.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...af4be9b411.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...c44ef1edfb.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...821d1b2f05.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...47b650aa3b.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...bd5e028ad1.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...2cc009d341.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...ddd8eca737.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...5b383c989a.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...1a4732bf72.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...db64b6047a.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...85912e243d.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...4a4f2b927a.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...c358df0296.jpg


http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...05a014e4c8.jpg
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...170a931f8f.jpg

Here is the jeep that I've been working on also for my brother. It's all hand me downs. His jeep looks great

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...1a2edba8e7.jpg

NHL_bullitt 01-14-2013 03:01 PM

Nice build! In the midst of a full width swap myself.

JJeeper09 01-14-2013 08:11 PM

Good stuff, I like the tube work.


Curious on why you have the lower CO mounts very high off the axle tube? Is there a reason that isn't in the pics? Because it seems the the holes in the good could have been avoided.

canadiantj1999 01-15-2013 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJeeper09 (Post 14790917)
Curious on why you have the lower CO mounts very high off the axle tube? Is there a reason that isn't in the pics? Because it seems the the holes in the good could have been avoided.

Mainly I was designing on the fly, where the mounts are now I can achieve full up travel on the shock and have the truss a 1/2 from the frame. After I get the build further and on its wheels I'd like to upgrade to 16" kings and lower the mounting 2" respectfully. And it should be the same ride height after the shock change.... Any advice or direction would be great main reason why I posted my build.

JJeeper09 01-15-2013 07:10 AM

How far off the axle are they?

Imped 01-15-2013 07:15 AM

Not enough room to run triangulated uppers? It looks like your track bar is pretty flat so you shouldn't have too much bump steer but I'm just curious why you didn't triangulate instead?

green50gt 01-15-2013 07:30 AM

Cool Build, subscribed. How about some pictures of the overall look before you started on the tons?

Maddog 01-15-2013 07:31 AM

Sweet Jeep!!!! Midland MI is my hometown, did you use to live on Valley Drive by chance? Nevertheless nice Prime Faster flex shot, if I know my old town correctly.

canadiantj1999 01-15-2013 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imped (Post 14792530)
Not enough room to run triangulated uppers? It looks like your track bar is pretty flat so you shouldn't have too much bump steer but I'm just curious why you didn't triangulate instead?

I do. Here's my reasoning for not doing it. I will not have enough triangulation to stop side to side movement if I only triagulated the top links, so I would have to triagulate the bottom as well guarantee proper triangulation. After I swap in a v8. Possibly a 6.0 ls or a 5.0 ho. Haven't decided yet. Fortunately to change from three link with trac bar to 4 link double tri is just matter of doing it. I think it will perform well in current suspension setup.


Also.. No bump steer with full hydro

canadiantj1999 01-15-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJeeper09 (Post 14792501)
How far off the axle are they?

They are level with the high steer arm, I'm currently out of country on work so it's difficult to get a exact measurement. I'd say 4-5 inches above tube.

canadiantj1999 01-15-2013 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by green50gt (Post 14792600)
Cool Build, subscribed. How about some pictures of the overall look before you started on the tons?

Here's one before coilovers

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...ad3a36a621.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...fd67f4976a.jpg



Here's one that is with some zyros and 14" kings. Note the prep for 4" stretch

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...b8fc9223b8.jpg


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