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Unread 03-20-2014, 08:06 AM   #691
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SkyJ, you said you can let it sit and idle all the way up to operating temp right? Then you give it throttle and it dies? How long has it sat and idled before?

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Unread 03-20-2014, 10:10 AM   #692
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SkyJ, you said you can let it sit and idle all the way up to operating temp right? Then you give it throttle and it dies? How long has it sat and idled before?
Yes it will idle all the way up to operating temp then it will die with throttle. It has idled for 45 min or so before but then it gets awfully hot and needs some air flow so I have to shut it down.
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Unread 03-20-2014, 11:43 AM   #693
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That should help alot the problem I had was the lowest I could mount my pump was about mid tank so it was working hard to pull fuel out I think you will be fine. If not carter makes a pretty cheap low pressure primer pump you can use to pull fuel from the tank to your E2000 then it will free flow. I would mount your pump below the tank as close as possible.
Wish I would've seen this earlier. My Howell pump is mounted outside the tank up almost touching the tub and I don't have a problem. Thinking I could've saved you some time and money.


I also wish I had something to offer in regards to your fuel problem. Could the timing be off? Vacuum leak? Have you tested the injectors(I think so) to see if they are working right? Clogged return line? <- all sad attempts at helping. Best of luck!
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Unread 03-20-2014, 12:02 PM   #694
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Wish I would've seen this earlier. My Howell pump is mounted outside the tank up almost touching the tub and I don't have a problem. Thinking I could've saved you some time and money.

I also wish I had something to offer in regards to your fuel problem. Could the timing be off? Vacuum leak? Have you tested the injectors(I think so) to see if they are working right? Clogged return line? <- all sad attempts at helping. Best of luck!
Ya know I'm not actually mad about the pump I'm glad I now have an In tank pump. And regards to your suggestion I have tried all of them. The only thing I haven't done is physically taken the injectors off the motor, but I know they dont leak cause my system holds psi. I could see one or two or even three being bad, but they wouldn't cause a complete shutdown of the motor. Its either air locked vapor locked whatever you want to call it..
Thanks for your suggestions no matter how miniscule you think they are its helpful to know so many are helping out.
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Unread 03-20-2014, 08:20 PM   #695
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And it's not faulting out after it expects that the 02 sensors should have warmed up but they weren't actually hooked up correctly? (Grasping at straws I know. I think it runs closed loop until the cat and other stuff should be warm then it changes...I think)
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Unread 03-20-2014, 09:05 PM   #696
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Yeah I've got good spark. Its like a switch is flipped shutting down fuel cause I can spray starting fluid down the throttle body and it will fire for a second. I think it may be the pcm telling the injectors not to fire I wonder if there is a capacitor that handles the injectors and its heating up and not working cause if I let it sit for an hour or so it will fire right up and run around the block again. I wish I could find a local with a pcm they would let me try just to see but all junk yards around me are out and the closest one I found is 3 hrs away.
If you think it's the injectors not firing they make an injector tester light that plugs into the wire harness plug for the injector and illuminates if it has power going to it. Really easy to use and doesn't take long to pull the plug off and test.
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Unread 03-20-2014, 09:50 PM   #697
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And it's not faulting out after it expects that the 02 sensors should have warmed up but they weren't actually hooked up correctly? (Grasping at straws I know. I think it runs closed loop until the cat and other stuff should be warm then it changes...I think)
No it will do it in open loop too. Its obd1 so only one o2. I've tricked the pcm into thinking its still in open loop and it will still stall.
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If you think it's the injectors not firing they make an injector tester light that plugs into the wire harness plug for the injector and illuminates if it has power going to it. Really easy to use and doesn't take long to pull the plug off and test.
Yea I've been thinking of getting a set of test noides I think is what they call them or even a test light will work also.
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Unread 03-25-2014, 07:19 AM   #698
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Ok quick update. I spoke with Que on the phone and my buddy flymt came over and helped me figure this mystery out. We ran some tests and (to make a long story short) we have determined that the problem is indeed the crank postion sensor. Whoda thunk?? Anywho I'm losing spark and fuel at the same time and that can only mean one thing, so I've ordered one it will be here on weds so I have a few days of vacation coming up and will get it installed and hopefully be rid of my problems for good.
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Unread 03-25-2014, 08:54 AM   #699
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Ok quick update. I spoke with Que on the phone and my buddy flymt came over and helped me figure this mystery out. We ran some tests and (to make a long story short) we have determined that the problem is indeed the crank postion sensor. Whoda thunk?? Anywho I'm losing spark and fuel at the same time and that can only mean one thing, so I've ordered one it will be here on weds so I have a few days of vacation coming up and will get it installed and hopefully be rid of my problems for good.
I've got my fingers crossed for you!!
I really hope this is it!!
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Unread 03-25-2014, 11:40 PM   #700
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Got the old cps out and started looking it over and noticed a small crack down the center of it. Grabbed the two ears of the mount and pulled and the damn thing split right down the middle into two separate pieces ahhhh!! I think we found the problem. The new cps will be here tomorrow so its ready for it.
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Unread 03-26-2014, 05:43 AM   #701
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I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Unread 03-26-2014, 04:40 PM   #702
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Hope that does it.
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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:39 PM   #703
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New manual CPS came in today and....well you'll just have to watch the video.
CLICK ON PIC


put over 50 miles on it without a single hickup.
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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:42 PM   #704
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New manual CPS came in today and....well you'll just have to watch the video. CLICK ON PIC put over 50 miles on it without a single hickup.

Oh hell yeah!
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Unread 03-28-2014, 04:50 PM   #705
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So happy for you man! I'm relieved!
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