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Unread 03-15-2012, 02:56 PM   #3271
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Sackless. I knew I should have just welded those tubes on for you the other night. You weren't "debating" anything. Bastard.

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Unread 03-15-2012, 03:15 PM   #3272
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Not true....was considering it.

Now go be a short, angry bastard in someone else's thread *****. :flipoff:

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Unread 03-15-2012, 10:50 PM   #3273
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There is no "finally took" with BB's. Either they work or they don't. Either you are going fast enough for centrifugal force to push them into the low spots or you aren't. There is nothing more complicated to them than that. It's physics.

Either way, I'm glad the shimmy is gone.
Love this thread...

But it's not centrifugal. It's centripetal.
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Unread 03-15-2012, 11:38 PM   #3274
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Connor, I'll be short and angry where ever I please until I find the one ring to rule them all. I still say you were just entertaining me while I was over there so you wouldn't have to hear it as bad. Either way, it'll look alright. You better flap those booger welds though. I was going to make these ones pretty for you this time. You can weld where no one will see. Until you know what you are doing, and it looks good, stop it. lol It'll flap out. Just don't let your OCD get overzealous or your **** will end up with flat spots like mine. I had to stop because I wouldn't have had any tube left.

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Love this thread...

But it's not centrifugal. It's centripetal.
Quite the opposite bud. Centripetal: i.e. "center-seeking" IIRC

I was wrong once before... I divorced her though. It is early though.
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Hornblasters Shocker S4 horn set with some extras $210 shipped. (It is not OBA, just an accessory for OBA)

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Unread 03-15-2012, 11:45 PM   #3275
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Connor, I'll be short and angry where ever I please until I find the one ring to rule them all. I still say you were just entertaining me while I was over there so you wouldn't have to hear it as bad. Either way, it'll look alright. You better flap those booger welds though. I was going to make these ones pretty for you this time. You can weld where no one will see. Until you know what you are doing, and it looks good, stop it. lol It'll flap out. Just don't let your OCD get overzealous or your **** will end up with flat spots like mine. I had to stop because I wouldn't have had any tube left.



Quite the opposite bud. Centripetal: i.e. "center-seeking" IIRC

I was wrong once before... I divorced her though. It is early though.
In my physics class, we've defined anything tethered to a central point with angular velocity centripetal.
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Unread 03-16-2012, 12:20 AM   #3276
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Welds look okay. When I get a set I'll make them perfect so I have the option of not flapping them. But either way I will probably flap them
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Unread 03-16-2012, 01:03 AM   #3277
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Quite the opposite bud. Centripetal: i.e. "center-seeking" IIRC

I was wrong once before... I divorced her though. It is early though.
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In my physics class, we've defined anything tethered to a central point with angular velocity centripetal.
Pretty sure you guys are both right, the centripetal force is exerted by the tire while the centrifugal force would be by the BB's , correct me if I'm wrong by any means. I'd even go as far as to say neither and say it's the angular momentum that "works" on the beads

Been following this build for a while, just re-read the first page and I must say Imped you have done things right. Not too many people have a 2" BB and 31's with rocker guards...just goes to show you are about simplicity and making do with what you have. Around here we have much stricter laws regarding tire coverage (and for a good reason, without mudflaps the roads would be downright hazardous) but I really like where you're going with the build. I only wish I could get the ~18 mpg you claim lol I'm getting <= 12 (mind you in the winter) with a <10k 4.0/AX-15/4.56/33x10.5's, gonna move up to 34" trXus and see what happens as the BFG's only measure about 31.5". Either way great work dude I'm stayin' tuned
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Unread 03-16-2012, 05:58 AM   #3278
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If it makes you feel any better, I took my time and welded mine nice and pretty with a MIG. Still ground them down and filled them. I gots about 15 years of welding EXP. And they still did not satisfy me enough to leave them alone.

Mine turned out awesome ground down a smoothed. Secret to knocking down just the weld is using a stone on the tops of the weld first attacking only the weld. Then flap the weld and smooth it into the tube. The way the top plate on the ROKMEN fenders is made you should have had enough valley to keep the weld in between the tube and top plate.

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Unread 03-16-2012, 06:30 AM   #3279
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Unread 03-16-2012, 06:45 AM   #3280
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OK, you bastards. I haven't taken a physics class in 4 years and I still remember this crap, at least I think so--centripetal force and centrifugal force are just equal and opposite reactions. The centripetal force is the force acting in the direction of the acceleration along the radius towards the center of the tire/wheel. The centrifugal force is the reaction to that.....it's the force moving away from the center of the tire along the radius. You can't have one without the other and the beads wouldn't stay put without that--Newton's 1st. Nobody's right, nobody's wrong, now shut up.

Thanks for the compliments Gray.

James, you should know by now that I don't care for people doing things for me but I do appreciate your input. If you want to come over and provide constructive criticism while I weld up the other one, that's cool and very welcomed. You know I want to learn as much as possible.....but I'm welding them. I bought the welder to do that and I looked forward to assembling these. If the first bead I ran looked like junk, I would've stopped. It didn't so I continued. I'm a noob at welding but you've got to remember that I've spent hours behind Marty's machine. The welds came out looking twice as good as the other set (that I didn't weld, mind you)......I'm not unhappy, I will be flapping regardless of how nice they look this time around.
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Unread 03-16-2012, 07:46 AM   #3281
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I just want them to look good for you bud. You know I'm just poking at you. And my offer still stands on actually teaching you to weld. Hours behind a machine mean nothing. Hours of proper instruction are everything. I take that back. With enough hours behind a machine, working different metal thicknesses you can learn to produce quality welds through trial and error. With a few hours of actual instruction and a some practice, you can exponentially reduce the number required to get the same results. I've done it. I know.
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Unread 03-16-2012, 08:29 AM   #3282
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OK, you bastards. I haven't taken a physics class in 4 years and I still remember this crap, at least I think so--centripetal force and centrifugal force are just equal and opposite reactions. The centripetal force is the force acting in the direction of the acceleration along the radius towards the center of the tire/wheel. The centrifugal force is the reaction to that.....it's the force moving away from the center of the tire along the radius. You can't have one without the other and the beads wouldn't stay put without that--Newton's 1st. Nobody's right, nobody's wrong, now shut up.

Thanks for the compliments Gray.

James, you should know by now that I don't care for people doing things for me but I do appreciate your input. If you want to come over and provide constructive criticism while I weld up the other one, that's cool and very welcomed. You know I want to learn as much as possible.....but I'm welding them. I bought the welder to do that and I looked forward to assembling these. If the first bead I ran looked like junk, I would've stopped. It didn't so I continued. I'm a noob at welding but you've got to remember that I've spent hours behind Marty's machine. The welds came out looking twice as good as the other set (that I didn't weld, mind you)......I'm not unhappy, I will be flapping regardless of how nice they look this time around.
You're right
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Unread 03-16-2012, 09:07 AM   #3283
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Good job welding. It's gonna look good when it's done man.
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I don't check in on this thread for 2 months and I come in here and see, stretch, physics ****, something about fenders...



Looks good man. A long ways back I thought you didn't want to stretch it? It's been awhile since I've poked in here.
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Unread 03-16-2012, 11:36 AM   #3285
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LOL.....dafuq. Now that's funny.

Yeah, it's a subject I've been going left and right on for a long time now. A couple obstacles finally sent me over the edge and I knew if I didn't just do something, I'd never do it. So I committed, cut up a couple things. and here I am. Hopefully I can turn my vision into reality.
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