The Pumpkinator's Build Thread - Page 44

**LuckRider** · 10-30-2009, 07:29 PM

Nice paint on the fenders. So where are the sliders???

James, what are you going to do in terms of bumpers? Got a set of BESRK's on order do we? And what kind of paint can we expect there?

Ok... now that those fenders are on, time for the Pitbulls. Just get some wheel adapters.

What suspension are you planning on running, if it was mentioned earlier, I missed it.

**Recoil** · 10-30-2009, 08:16 PM

Mwaaa ha ha he's got a TNT long arm with a bit of stretch waiting to be installed with the arms and belly painted to match. Can you say 4 link rear. It's baaaad

**Bennettj13** · 10-30-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckrider

Nice paint on the fenders. So where are the sliders???

James, what are you going to do in terms of bumpers? Got a set of BESRK's on order do we? And what kind of paint can we expect there?

Ok... now that those fenders are on, time for the Pitbulls. Just get some wheel adapters.

What suspension are you planning on running, if it was mentioned earlier, I missed it.

We are waiting on hardware for the sliders still. I seem to have misplaced mine somewhere along the way. TNT has some new **** on the way as I type this.

No current bumper plans as of yet. I like the besrks rear set up but I am not doing a rear swing out off the bumper. I'll either run the savvy setup whenever it comes out or the TNT swingout with their rear crossmember. Bumpers will be black for easy touch up. I'm sure there will be some orange accents in there. I just wanted to get the biggest stuff out of the way first. I can tolerate stock bumpers for now.

I am not going to bother with wheel adapters. I'll just be waiting until we sling the JK axles under there. I want the tires under there more than you do, believe me.

And as Jerry said, I am running the TNT long arm set up. Im running rough country 2.5 springs and their longest 2.2 shocks available. I've got limit straps for the front and an outboard kit for the rear.

Rod and I spent a while tonight wetsanding the wheels, getting the ready for paint. Now we are putting the battery back in and getting the computer and stuff hooked back up so it's drivable. It goes under the knife again Sunday. That's when the suspension work starts.

**LuckRider** · 10-30-2009, 10:04 PM

Cool, nice to know. Actually, this is starting to turn out much the way I would want to do mine if I had the money. I am already planning on T&T Fenders and corners. I keep thinking about the RC 2.5" coils because they are supposed to have a nice ride, and they are long for 2.5". Another great thing about that kit is that I could probably get the new LA kit they have coming out soon, and then fully upgrade the suspension over time as money allows.

If had even more money, I would be going the T&T stretch route with the suspension connected to d60s front and rear (I will probably end up finding a d44 or 8.8 to run with one day). And then I would stop at 35"s I don't think I would go for 37"s, plus... with the 42RLE, 35"s are really the biggest you can go without killing power. And of course, you NEED a rear outboard kit.

One question. Why are you going to run the RC 2.2 shocks as apposed to others, is it for their price???

What kind of Tire carrier is the Savy, will it be a body mount when it comes out, or is it a full bumper/carrier??? As for the front, are you planning on getting a stinger, a full wrap around, a shorty????

Looking good, can't wait to see it running again, ready for it's next day of surgery

LGriffith · 10-30-2009, 11:31 PM

What color are you doing the wheels, black?

**Recoil** · 10-30-2009, 11:59 PM

Yep he has a set of JK rubicon wheels and is painting them black

**LuckRider** · 10-31-2009, 12:52 AM

Black rims? Do I have a second to the motion of painting an orange ring around the outside, maybe 1/4" or 3/8" wide?

**Bennettj13** · 10-31-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Luckrider

Cool, nice to know. Actually, this is starting to turn out much the way I would want to do mine if I had the money. I am already planning on T&T Fenders and corners. I keep thinking about the RC 2.5" coils because they are supposed to have a nice ride, and they are long for 2.5". Another great thing about that kit is that I could probably get the new LA kit they have coming out soon, and then fully upgrade the suspension over time as money allows.

If had even more money, I would be going the T&T stretch route with the suspension connected to d60s front and rear (I will probably end up finding a d44 or 8.8 to run with one day). And then I would stop at 35"s I don't think I would go for 37"s, plus... with the 42RLE, 35"s are really the biggest you can go without killing power. And of course, you NEED a rear outboard kit.

One question. Why are you going to run the RC 2.2 shocks as apposed to others, is it for their price???

What kind of Tire carrier is the Savy, will it be a body mount when it comes out, or is it a full bumper/carrier??? As for the front, are you planning on getting a stinger, a full wrap around, a shorty????

Looking good, can't wait to see it running again, ready for it's next day of surgery

A few things...

Firstly, as big a fan as I am of Rough Country's customer service (Jeffrey has been awesome to me)... I'm not much of a fan of their long arm. I don't like how a lot of questions have been dodged. Until those are answered, I wouldn't even consider it as an option.

Secondly, if you are thinking of doing 60's, don't attempt to run 35's. You won't have the clearance for them under the diffs. If you don't think you'll go past 35's, do a waggy front and an 8.8 or D44 rear.

Third, the 42RLE is just fine. People dog it because most of them aren't willing to do what it takes to take advantage of it. If you have a D30 front, you aren't going to be gearing to 5.13's to make those 35's hit the sweet spot. You only lose power when you don't gear properly.

Now, to answer your questions. I'm running the 2.2's because I've heard nothing but good things about them, and they came with the lift kit I bought from RC. I see no downside to running them other than the fact that they are a bit short for what I would like (but then again, I want coilovers too). They will do me just fine while I get used to wheeling a brand new Jeep (because it basically will be), and I see no reason why I shouldn't just use them. I'm actually not going to outboard the rear shocks until I decide to replace the 2.2's. That will happen when I go coilovers in the front, and something different in the rear. I only want to have to french the frame once.

Savvy's tire carrier (As far as I know from seeing Blaine express his desires about it) will mount to the body (corners), and will not mount to a bumper.

When I run a front bumper set up, it will be a shorty for max approach angle. If I buy one, it will either be the Hanson stubby, or Currie short "V" bumper. I like the style of both. If I DO have any tube work done for it, it will be completely custom, to fit my needs. Huge stingers are for tools. You can get the same benefits without having some huge gaudy mass of metal hanging off your front end.

Also, there will be no orange on the wheels. Not for now. I just don't care enough. Perhaps in the future, if/when I buy different wheels but not right now. I just don't want the silver Moabs on the Jeep. They won't look right. For me right now, black is the way to go. Easy touch up for wheels I intend to beat the piss out of.

Thanks for all the compliments everyone. I appreciate it.

I'll probably post an update tomorrow. I took a few pics, but I am beat to **** and have to work tomorrow. So, it's time for bed.

**LuckRider** · 10-31-2009, 11:43 AM

Wow, I hear ya on the RC stuff, I see you bought the full 2.5" kit then? Hearing that you are going to try and figure out exactly what you want in terms of shocks makes sense, now I see why you are going to run them. With that long arm, I hear you 100%. When I talked to him on the phone, it sounded like there was more that he wanted to do, but the bosses weren't letting him get away with. I think if Jeffery makes the changes that I and others suggested for the 2.5" we may have a solid starter platform, that remains to be seen though. (Biggest Suggestion, truss the rear with full triangulation)

When I mentioned d60s those are dreams that would push tire size. If I can get a set cheap or cheaper than other axle upgrades, I would probably go to 40"s. If not, I think I could do just fine with a d44 or 8.8 in the rear, and not really worry about the front.

The only problem I have with the 42rle is like you said, gearing. I actually love that tranny, probably my favorite auto out of the many I have driven. The only real problem I have is getting it geared low enough. I have heard that there are gears as low as 5.38 (I think one of the venders here sells them) so if I could get those, I would be happy. Hell... if I could gear the d30 and d35 low enough, I could probably get away with chromo shafts and truss front and rear. I know IdahoJeep abused his with those and no problems on 35"s.

**spyder6** · 10-31-2009, 12:12 PM

luckrider, 4.88's are the biggest gears you can stuff in a dana 30. there are small production runs of 5.38's for D44's but you need a locker made specially for it, and i think Detroit locker is the only one that has one for it.

**Imped** · 10-31-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckrider

Wow, I hear ya on the RC stuff, I see you bought the full 2.5" kit then? Hearing that you are going to try and figure out exactly what you want in terms of shocks makes sense, now I see why you are going to run them. With that long arm, I hear you 100%. When I talked to him on the phone, it sounded like there was more that he wanted to do, but the bosses weren't letting him get away with. I think if Jeffery makes the changes that I and others suggested for the 2.5" we may have a solid starter platform, that remains to be seen though. (Biggest Suggestion, truss the rear with full triangulation)

When I mentioned d60s those are dreams that would push tire size. If I can get a set cheap or cheaper than other axle upgrades, I would probably go to 40"s. If not, I think I could do just fine with a d44 or 8.8 in the rear, and not really worry about the front.

The only problem I have with the 42rle is like you said, gearing. I actually love that tranny, probably my favorite auto out of the many I have driven. The only real problem I have is getting it geared low enough. I have heard that there are gears as low as 5.38 (I think one of the venders here sells them) so if I could get those, I would be happy. Hell... if I could gear the d30 and d35 low enough, I could probably get away with chromo shafts and truss front and rear. I know IdahoJeep abused his with those and no problems on 35"s.

You could just go to Rockwells. 6.72 gears.

**LuckRider** · 10-31-2009, 07:09 PM

I don't think anyone needs 6.72. IIRC Flatlander is on 42"s with 5.38 (5speed) and he can out accelerate his friends Mazda.

**RockRodHooligan** · 10-31-2009, 07:16 PM

Agreed, any gearing deeper than in the 5.XX's is totally unnecessary

**Imped** · 10-31-2009, 08:27 PM

Joke fellas, joke.....

**LuckRider** · 10-31-2009, 11:23 PM

James, flipping through the 4wd catalog, I saw 5.13's for the d30. The lowest they go for the d35 is still 4.88 though. They are made by a company called G2.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of deal did you snag on those d44's? I see 4wd has locked d44's for 2500 rear, 3k front with chromoly shafts and axle tubes stronger than factory. They even sell d60's locked, same price for the rear, 2500 front with currie parts, and 1 ton steering. The other advantage is that they come geared with any gears you want pretty much, and they are bolt in (minus front nuckles, need to reuse d30 knuckles)

Can't wait to see the JK axles go in. What gears are you going to run for those 35"s? 4.88, 5.13?