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post #1 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 04:30 AM Thread Starter
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Project Ton Ton - 1 Ton Cherokee HP60/14b

Hey.

Just an initial heads up, this is phase I: accumulating parts and ideas. I am beginning this thread just so that I have a place to post, maybe post some tech and info for you and myself for reference, and hash out problems with help from the community. Insofar I have not done any disassembly yet. So stay tuned and be very patient. It will start slow because of money, but once it's ready it's going to be a weekend bolt-in deal.

I am starting out with my 1998 Jeep Cherokee, 2-door, 4.0L/AX-15/NP231. I am attempting to retain my current long arm set up with this build until I have money for the DOM, tube adapters, joints, etc for a 4-link rear, 3-link w/ panhard front. Unfortunately this way costs more in total, but less in its initial phases. Sort of like paying loans and ending up paying a lot of interest in the end.

UPDATE
October 11, 2011:
plans have changed a lot. scroll down to other posts to see a more updated list.

What is being built:









THE PLANS:

- Dodge Dana 60 and Dana 70, 67.5" WMS, 8-on-6.5", 4.10:1, locking hubs... shaved for clearance
(will take picture tomorrow)
- obviously conversion u-joints
- H2 rims, 5.5" backspacing, 17" dia, 8-bolt
- rock rings for rims if possible, maybe custom cut, TIG'd by friend.
- complete replacement custom tube fenders (akin to EricsXJ)
- cheap hydro assist using either tapped stock pump or Durango pump
- 37"x12.5"x17" of either Kevlar MTR, Mickey Thompson MtZ, or radial Pitbull Rocker flavour
- using stock axleshafts for now, pictures will tell you how beefy these things are.
- "frame" reinforcement
- drop pitman arm reamed for Chevy TRE (1.5" inch / ft tapered reamer)
- Ballistic Fabrications:
--- offset panhard bracket
--- coil/link/shock combo buckets
--- high steer passenger arm for high crossover steering
--- upper link tower
--- axle link tabs for upper link (onto truss for D60)



With being fullwidth using the H2 rims I'm hoping for an overall width of 82" MAX. The tires may go wider depending on how uncomfortable I am with the amount of hub sticking out from the wheels. If I have time I'll also go disc brake in the rear, these drums are stupid big. Will post pics later.



H2 wheels


wall ornaments
(the calendar is a 2010, my girlfriend put it up and I never took it down, so shh.



will get axle pics later.



Comments, concerns, questions and even flames are appreciated and honestly excitedly awaited.


"Chilton's and Haynes are for brake jobs, oil changes and starting campfires." - CJ7-Tim
'98 2dr/5spd Cherokee rockin' on tons, 5.9L V8 Magnum, HP60/14b, 5.13:1, locked, 14" coilovers, Dana 300 4:1 twin stick... oink oink!
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post #2 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 07:11 AM
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A cherokee on tons! Sweet! Gonna watch this one.

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post #3 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 07:47 AM
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Nice! thread subscribed!
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post #4 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 07:58 AM
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this should be pretty cool to see when its done.
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post #5 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 08:04 AM
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I like your plans, eh. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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post #6 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys! The goal is to make this a daily driver that isn't totally frustrating on the road, but can kick huge *** offroad. So selectable lockers will be in the cards when I have the money.

I'm debating on a Dana 60 in the rear because I have one of them sitting bolted under my old Power Wagon but I'm not sure I want to use such an old axle.. I like semi-new and these tons are from a 90's era vehicle so I might just shave the hell out of the 70 because it uses the same diff cover as the 60, it just has more mass and a bigger lip.

"Chilton's and Haynes are for brake jobs, oil changes and starting campfires." - CJ7-Tim
'98 2dr/5spd Cherokee rockin' on tons, 5.9L V8 Magnum, HP60/14b, 5.13:1, locked, 14" coilovers, Dana 300 4:1 twin stick... oink oink!
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post #8 of 301 Old 03-07-2011, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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Just to give it some rusty eyecandy.

Dana 70:





Dana 60:





Dana 60 + Power Wagon:





the rear Dana 60 I'm debating on:
(blocks are bad, mmmkay?)





Hopefully the last time I fix anything on the little Dana 30 before it goes bye bye:


"Chilton's and Haynes are for brake jobs, oil changes and starting campfires." - CJ7-Tim
'98 2dr/5spd Cherokee rockin' on tons, 5.9L V8 Magnum, HP60/14b, 5.13:1, locked, 14" coilovers, Dana 300 4:1 twin stick... oink oink!
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2 door 5 speed on tons

-Jacob-

lockers don't work unless you have Rubicon stickers
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That power wagon is badass!! I love those trucks!

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post #11 of 301 Old 03-31-2011, 02:16 AM Thread Starter
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Just ordered some bracketry from Ballistic Fab..

XJ brackets for coil/link/shock that I'll grind out for the much larger axle tube diameter of the Dana 60.
Single long two-hole passenger high steer arm (one for now because I'm just keeping the tie rod in the stock location until I destroy it, and then I'll just try my hand at making my own arm - I have to get a TRE reamer anyway, so..)

So there goes $300!


Got so excited I woke up my girlfriend to tell her (yeah I'm pretty cool like that).. and I'm terrible at keeping my mouth shut so I go "So I just got paid tonight, I have to do exhaust work on the Jeep, get it AirCared, reinsure it because insurance is expiring in a week, get flares, I'm out of gas, pay off my Mastercard, and I don't get paid for another two weeks.... but I just ordered three hundred dollars worth of parts from Ballistic Fab!"

And the only thing she was mad at me for was that I was still awake and I work in a few hours. Not too shabby of an old lady, I say.

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Gotta get the kingpin bolts off and remove the knuckles, the weather's been way too crap to strip the rust down while it's outside.. but all the brakes and shafts are off.




Looking rusty..


Rotor, hat, etc.. (I keep the lockouts in my room, hah.)


Stock Dana 60 shaft with stock Dana 30 outer stub:


Stock 60 shaft, stock 30 outer:



Down in Birch Bay, Washington
gotta love the iPhone..



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Been a while since I've updated anything, but just to show that I'm serious about this, here's some more recently obtained parts:

Dana 300 with long tailhousing, with 4:1 gears.
Will be using either NWF or Novak 7/8" flip ring with either custom cable shifters or attempt to squeeze in some mechanical shifters (it's been done, so we'll see).
Also going to pick up one more XJ CV yoke so I can my CV shafts front and rear.



Ballistic coil brackets... although they sent me the ones for a Dana 30 sized axle, but that's easy to rectify


High steer arm (just 1 for now, I'll wait until I kill a tie rod)


And some TNT frame stiffeners, main and front extensions, but pics of those are sort of pointless.


It's taking so long because I make so little at my job, and it's taking more money than I expected (also because I hadn't expected to pick up a Dana 300 so soon)


And a gratuitous camping shot:




Sorry that's it not much of an update.

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I haven't updated in a while because there didn't seem to be a whole lot of interest, so I figured it would make sense to wait for me to do a little work first before I posted again.

My plans have changed a bit:

Ford HP60, kingpin, 80's era, RuffStuff heim high steer and panhard, Ballistic high steer arms, 5.13:1 thicks, Chevy knuckles and outers, open diff for now.

SRW 14 bolt, drums for now, Grizzly mechanical locker, 5.13:1 thicks, Ruffstuff leaf swap kit.

14" FOA coilovers, just emulsions with shock hoops and cross brace.

Slightly baldy 37"x13.5" Toyos on the H2 rims.





Girlfriend's truck, picking HP60 up in Whistler










Looks wide.

"Chilton's and Haynes are for brake jobs, oil changes and starting campfires." - CJ7-Tim
'98 2dr/5spd Cherokee rockin' on tons, 5.9L V8 Magnum, HP60/14b, 5.13:1, locked, 14" coilovers, Dana 300 4:1 twin stick... oink oink!
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