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08-19-2011, 01:42 PM
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#1261
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Mall Crawling Race Rig
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mountain Island, NC
Posts: 3,816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gtxracer
If you get rear coilovers can you run a detroit?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mallard15
Or an ox locker.
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No, you have to match 3 of 4 requirements in Class B:
- 40" or smaller tires
- 2 Tuneable vehicle supporting shocks (coilovers, airshocks)
- 1 Locker
- Stock Engine
So any "locker" would bump me out, I would just have to pull the air line on either the front or rear ARB. The wife thinks 2 coilovers and 2 lockers are better than 4 coilovers and 1 locker. I have been told by people much smarter than me that a well tuned resi shock and spring can perform like a coilover anyway.
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08-19-2011, 01:42 PM
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#1262
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Fabramicator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 5,445
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I highly doubt the rules specify "air locker"... just 1 locker.
*edit: Jay beat me to it
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08-19-2011, 01:46 PM
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#1263
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: olyWA
Posts: 281
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDLYNER
The wife thinks 2 coilovers and 2 lockers are better than 4 coilovers and 1 locker. I have been told by people much smarter than me that a well tuned resi shock and spring can perform like a coilover anyway.
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Your wife is smart. Do it that way.
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08-19-2011, 01:52 PM
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#1264
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Fabramicator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDLYNER
The wife thinks 2 coilovers and 2 lockers are better than 4 coilovers and 1 locker. I have been told by people much smarter than me that a well tuned resi shock and spring can perform like a coilover anyway.
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sounds like the way to go. I say option 1: rear Resi's and front air bumps
You said last race your rear shocks faded so you should definitely address that which will likely help with bottoming out the rear suspension as the same time. I think a rear anti-rock would be sweet but I can't see it making as noticeable of a difference vs. the stock rear sway as shocks or air bumps will make in performance IMO.
Obviously rear anit-rock, shocks, and air bumps all around would be ideal
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08-19-2011, 02:02 PM
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Mall Crawling Race Rig
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mountain Island, NC
Posts: 3,816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MO2500
I say option 1: rear Resi's and front air bumps
You said last race your rear shocks faded so you should definitely address that which will likely help with bottoming out the rear suspension as the same time.
I think a rear anti-rock would be sweet but I can't see it making as noticeable of a difference vs. the stock rear sway as shocks or air bumps will make in performance IMO.
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I don't have a rear sway bar at all. My axle is moved back nearly 7" and I didn't want to have the mounts redone, so no rear sway bars currently. And yes, I had massive shock fade last time out. The shock that broke off was too hot to even touch, so shocks are all but a must do. I really need to get a camera mounted to show the compression.
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Originally Posted by MO2500
Obviously rear anit-rock, shocks, and air bumps all around would be ideal 
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That's where I'll end up, but I can only do two options right now. The rest will come as the build drags on.
The nice part of those mods is pretty much all of them will transfer over to bigger axles, so there won't be much to redo.
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08-19-2011, 04:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: lake elsinore, southern california
Posts: 830
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Option 1 would be your best bet
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08-19-2011, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Richmond
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What kind of resi's you got in mind. I've been thinking of front coilovers or struts but just can't decide
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08-19-2011, 07:55 PM
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Mall Crawling Race Rig
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mountain Island, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJeeper09
What kind of resi's you got in mind. I've been thinking of front coilovers or struts but just can't decide
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I've been hunting for deals, but the wife wants Fox to match the coilovers up front.  So if I keep her happy, I can mod without being given a hard time. So I'm cruising around the FS sections looking for some Fox 12" or 14".
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08-19-2011, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Richmond
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So you will modify the upper mounts?
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08-19-2011, 08:17 PM
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Mall Crawling Race Rig
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mountain Island, NC
Posts: 3,816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJeeper09
So you will modify the upper mounts?
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Yes- first they will have to be adjusted, then I may put a gusset on there so I don't have the same problem as last time (although it was a bad weld, not the design):
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08-19-2011, 08:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: South Carolina
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These would be nice!  Also the shocks lo2ay uses... I know they are king resis but I don't know which model. Don't think it is these though:
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08-19-2011, 11:33 PM
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Fabramicator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDLYNER
I don't have a rear sway bar at all. My axle is moved back nearly 7" and I didn't want to have the mounts redone, so no rear sway bars currently. And yes, I had massive shock fade last time out. The shock that broke off was too hot to even touch, so shocks are all but a must do. I really need to get a camera mounted to show the compression.
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Ahh yes, I completely forgot about that little detail. Well then maybe resi shocks and an anti-rock would be better. How hard were you bottoming out on the bumps in the last race?
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08-20-2011, 01:00 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Crawlerado
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Originally Posted by REDLYNER
Yes- first they will have to be adjusted, then I may put a gusset on there so I don't have the same problem as last time (although it was a bad weld, not the design):
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I don't trust that design. I welded my front shocks hoops directly to my frame with good welds. I ripped two large holes out of my frame. The welds held, but the base material failed (aka frame). Think about heat effected zones. I know we are comparing apples to oranges, but I am willing to bet that you will now be flogging your rig more than me. I wouldn't run another shock mount without a gusset. I now have 1/4" fishplates and two gussets per hoop.
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08-20-2011, 04:07 PM
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Mall Crawling Race Rig
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mountain Island, NC
Posts: 3,816
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I'm thinking about doing a "little tire" run next weekend at Uwharrie  .
I have some stock 28"s I'll be putting on..... should be fun  .
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08-20-2011, 04:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 602
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDLYNER
I'm thinking about doing a "little tire" run next weekend at Uwharrie  .
I have some stock 28"s I'll be putting on..... should be fun  .
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If you need a spotter let me know and I'll head that way in the car! Can't do the jeep because I am taking it home to Bama for the holiday weekend and the hitting uwharrie in it the following weekend and the ole petrol bill would jut get way outta hand with 3 consecutive weekends of jeep trips!
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