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post #5926 of 6906 Old 08-01-2014, 04:25 PM
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Really? I had no idea.
I can have the torsion bar set so that the input steering effort is greatly reduced and put a small flow high pressure pump on it and you could spin it sitting still with a pencil without breaking it. It would be no fun on the trail or in parking lots, but it would turn the tires sitting still with no problems.


We go the other way to make them more enjoyable to drive at speed on the freeway and increase the "felt" or perceived steering effort. Has zero effect on how much power the system has to turn the tires, but makes them very much fun to drive at speed.

EDIT- Here's a link to an article that may help.

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post #5927 of 6906 Old 08-02-2014, 04:09 AM
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EDIT- Here's a link to an article that may help.

http://www.circletrack.com/chassiste...ering_systems/
That's very informative; thanks for posting it.

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post #5928 of 6906 Old 08-02-2014, 07:36 AM
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That's very informative; thanks for posting it.
I started ordering heavier feel gears about 2-3 years ago and it is now the only way they ship them unless you want it lighter for some reason.

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post #5929 of 6906 Old 08-02-2014, 11:57 AM
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I started ordering heavier feel gears about 2-3 years ago and it is now the only way they ship them unless you want it lighter for some reason.
I can see how people that have a good "feel" for a car in an on-track racing situation would be okay with a setup that offers lighter/less feedback, but that kind of arrangement doesn't seem to have a lot of benefit for general-purpose offroad use where "feeling" the resistance on the tires in different situations is vital...at least for me, that is. With that in mind, I'd personally prefer a more balanced system that puts enough feedback into my hands for me to know where the tires are and what's pushing on them without being overly stiff or mushy...so if the tire-turning effort and steering wheel input force can be so easily and widely separated then I see no reason to not set it up the way I want. I honestly didn't know that steering boxes - and I suppose the system as a whole - were so customizable.

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I can see how people that have a good "feel" for a car in an on-track racing situation would be okay with a setup that offers lighter/less feedback, but that kind of arrangement doesn't seem to have a lot of benefit for general-purpose offroad use where "feeling" the resistance on the tires in different situations is vital...at least for me, that is. With that in mind, I'd personally prefer a more balanced system that puts enough feedback into my hands for me to know where the tires are and what's pushing on them without being overly stiff or mushy...so if the tire-turning effort and steering wheel input force can be so easily and widely separated then I see no reason to not set it up the way I want. I honestly didn't know that steering boxes - and I suppose the system as a whole - were so customizable.
Same here. I am learning a lot, which is a good thing I think. However, the more I learn, the more I want to tweak ( spend money) lol
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can you adjust the hydro assist system or is it setup out of the box to have lighter/less feedback?? just asking because the only vehicle that i drove with HA was so easy to turn on pavement that it resulted in my being scared to drive it because it felt as though i could accidentally flip it over in a turn because the steering feedback was that light
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post #5932 of 6906 Old 08-02-2014, 04:39 PM
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can you adjust the hydro assist system or is it setup out of the box to have lighter/less feedback?? just asking because the only vehicle that i drove with HA was so easy to turn on pavement that it resulted in my being scared to drive it because it felt as though i could accidentally flip it over in a turn because the steering feedback was that light
When I set them up with near identical parts to what you see in the pictures, other than the heavier feel that I specify on purpose, the rest of it is invisible. If it's not, I screwed up somewhere.

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post #5933 of 6906 Old 08-03-2014, 09:07 PM
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Hey Red, after doing some google searches I kept seeing your name pop up asking the same questions. How did you go about extending your rear brake lines for your stretch?

Im going to be stretching my LJ a couple inches using the clayton kit and need to extend my hard brake line and add in another hard brake line mounted on the axle.

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post #5934 of 6906 Old 08-05-2014, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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No one is going to take me serious in Ultra4 if I can't establish and maintain a 37 degree gangsta lean on my hot laps. The problem is, when my seat is leaned way back and I've propped my fist on top of the steering wheel, I'm having a hard time getting through the rocks. Gangsta lean in the pits, no problem. Gangsta lean on Chocolate Thunder..... Problem. Am I the only driver having steering issues like this?









I decided to do what I do best..... copy the real racers so I can look more legit. I saw that Mike at OMS was making just a little too much progress on his rig, so in an effort to keep the competition down, I'm having him do some more beautification to the 4550.






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No one is going to take me serious in Ultra4 if I can't establish and maintain a 37 degree gangsta lean on my hot laps. The problem is, when my seat is leaned way back and I've propped my fist on top of the steering wheel, I'm having a hard time getting through the rocks. Gangsta lean in the pits, no problem. Gangsta lean on Chocolate Thunder..... Problem. Am I the only driver having steering issues like this?








You have to lean INTO chocolate thunder, just don't lean too hard. I was told to "mean mug" the left boulder as the gangster lean was initiated. I never got it down' fully either

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You have to lean INTO chocolate thunder, just don't lean too hard. I was told to "mean mug" the left boulder as the gangster lean was initiated. I never got it down' fully either
I haven't been there to try it, myself, but I have it on the best authority that throwing an "East Side!!" gesture as you approach is a sure path to victory on that particular section.

Jay, this may be a dumb question, but: how much bling are you displaying? You really don't want to be underblinged on Chocolate Thunder, you know...


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post #5937 of 6906 Old 08-07-2014, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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Hey Red, after doing some google searches I kept seeing your name pop up asking the same questions. How did you go about extending your rear brake lines for your stretch?

Im going to be stretching my LJ a couple inches using the clayton kit and need to extend my hard brake line and add in another hard brake line mounted on the axle.
I stretched it 3 times, I ended up using extended stainless lines. I'll have to look again to see if there is anything else, I just don't remember at the moment.


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I haven't been there to try it, myself, but I have it on the best authority that throwing an "East Side!!" gesture as you approach is a sure path to victory on that particular section.

Jay, this may be a dumb question, but: how much bling are you displaying? You really don't want to be underblinged on Chocolate Thunder, you know...

Bling display is at an all time high. When are you coming through Charlotte? We need to do some hot laps at my local bar. Several other jeep guys hit that place pretty frequently.





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post #5938 of 6906 Old 08-13-2014, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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Getting close! As always, Mike's communication has been awesome. We have spent hours on the phone going over different ideas for this project and a couple of others. Thanks for the updates OMS!






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woah, das some steering

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I like the double sheer on the tierod heims, still shoulda ried to raise the tierod higher. I know you got the spring em back version, but me as a simpleton thinks it's even better to not get it sprung in the first place. Last February that previous tierod did not live a happy life.

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