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post #61 of 1067 Old 08-21-2012, 12:16 AM Thread Starter
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Sorry about your friend. Was the stroke the cause of the accident?

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No some stupid piece of crap was texting driving 60 in a 35. Ran a red light and tried to kill my friend. The stroke was a result of the surgery. My buddy is a father of 3.


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post #62 of 1067 Old 08-21-2012, 07:48 AM
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And I bet that ignorant prick walked away with hardly a scratch. WTF is wrong with people?

Here is to a speedy recovery, hopefully things will get better for him and his family.
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And I bet that ignorant prick walked away with hardly a scratch. WTF is wrong with people?

Here is to a speedy recovery, hopefully things will get better for him and his family.
You know I don't know if he was injured in the accident or not. Ill find out when I meet him.

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I hope its in court. Just remember to keep your temper: the 15 seconds of satisfaction earned by beating the idiot half to death isn't worth the lifetime of BS having it on your record....
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A good friend of mine was in a terrible car accident this weekend, which resulted in a crushed right arm and massive stroke. He is completely paralyzed on his left side. So I have been dealing with that. He is conscious and really pissed off so that's a good sign. Been working on the Jeep at night to keep my mind off of it. Basically working until I can't stand anymore.

I have the engine trans out, front grille, jeep ecu and associated wiring, evap crap, steering shaft, engine mounts cut out and a lot of little crap done. Ishould have the mounter mounts ground down and the new ones tacked in for a test fit by weeks end.

Everything I have order is here. Lokar shifter showed up today. I'm really happy with it. After the mounts are finalized I will be focusing on the tcase and trans shifter and getting the motor and all in, hopefully by Sunday night. I believe my wiring harness and ecu are 2 weeks out. Trying to decide on a rad and funds to purchase that.

I'm working so hard that I'm not really taking many pics, but I'll snap some and throw those up but really not much to see. I think everyone has seen an empty Jeep engine bay.
Sorry to hear about your friend. If you have your original radiator, you should try and use that first, save some money. Worse case scenario it doesnt cool enough for you and you have to buy one. Lots of guys have been able to reuse the stock radiator.


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Sorry to hear about your friend. If you have your original radiator, you should try and use that first, save some money. Worse case scenario it doesnt cool enough for you and you have to buy one. Lots of guys have been able to reuse the stock radiator.
That was my original plan. Considering that I have a brand new OEM Tj rad in there. That is less than 2 months old.

In doing research however I ran across info about running the tranny cooler to an aux cooler only as a bad thing. That the trans fluid needed to go to the rad cooler first then either back to the trans or then to and aux cooler and then back to the trans.

So Im not sure what to do here. I would love to save the money and just pick up a trans cooler. But I don't want to damage the trans.

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I'm not sure as to how running to just an Aux cooler is a bad thing. For the most part, any aux cooler works better than the stock style through the radiatior. Most likely the person passing that info didn't have a large/efficient enough cooler and used the 2 in conjuction for proper results. I used a small cooler on my Duster and it didn't help at all; I ended up upgrading to one of the coolers with an integrated fan. Huge difference!
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I'm not sure as to how running to just an Aux cooler is a bad thing. For the most part, any aux cooler works better than the stock style through the radiatior. Most likely the person passing that info didn't have a large/efficient enough cooler and used the 2 in conjuction for proper results. I used a small cooler on my Duster and it didn't help at all; I ended up upgrading to one of the coolers with an integrated fan. Huge difference!
Well I have read that the proper operating temp of a tranny is 160-190ish. The radiator has warm fluid in it that is 32 times more efficient at transferring heat over air. That and the radiator warms the fluid up when it is cold.

Can the ECU see trans temp?

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Nothing Big happening right now just cutting the stock motor mounts out. Passanger side is done, driver side should be done tonight. Then Ill weld in the novak mounts.

I mocked up the novak mounts with the Corvette manifolds with the motor on the ground. It is gonna be close on clearence, if it works at all. If it doesnt Ill grab some Camero SS from a 2010 they dump out further towards the back and hug the block. This kind of irrates me because I have seen 3 or 4 builds where these headers work with these mounts. We will see this weekend when I hope to have the motor sitting between the frame rails. After that its all down hill.

I looked over the exhaust manifold on the 4.0. i have had a leak since I got the thing and for the life of me could not find it. Well I did today!

That has been driving me nuts.

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I know nothing all that exciting. But soon. Need to get the motor in then ill burn in the mounts, build the tcase and get this pig home. Just cooling, exhaust and wiring after that.

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Just curious what made you go with Advance Adapters transfer case to trans adapter instead of Novak? Also have you figured out if the factory throttle cable is gonna work? I just mailed Wayne and Dave a check today for my PCM and Harness and tune. I cant wait to get started on mine.
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Just curious what made you go with Advance Adapters transfer case to trans adapter instead of Novak? Also have you figured out if the factory throttle cable is gonna work? I just mailed Wayne and Dave a check today for my PCM and Harness and tune. I cant wait to get started on mine.
I went with the AA adapter for several reasons. You go 27 spline vs 21/23 depending on your tcase. You don't have to go into the tranny so that's $, you dont put a custom piece in your trans that you only have one source for. So it's cheaper, uses stock parts and I can install it.

I have both the GM throttle cable which I thick will work. If not I'll use the Jeep cable or make one.

I sent my wiring and PCM to Wayne a while ago. He recieved it on the 10th and I haven't recieved word it is done yet. I expect to see it in 2 more weeks with the 5 days of shipping it take to get here.

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Dont you still have to take the transfer case apart to install there gear? Also I heard Novaks adapter is a few inches shorter. JUst curious as I dont know this to be a fact.
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Dont you still have to take the transfer case apart to install there gear? Also I heard Novaks adapter is a few inches shorter. JUst curious as I dont know this to be a fact.
The AA adapter is 4". There are no specs on the Novak site but by looks it appears to be shorter. But overall the 5.3/4l60e is a shorter package than the 4.0/ax15 by about 4". Given that plus the non custom 1 source part and not having to have a trans shop install the output shaft I went AA.

Yes I do have to tear open the tcase, but that is easy.

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I went AA also. The 27 spline input was the biggest factor. With 4l60e this combo could have easily worked to keep both driveshafts. It takes an hour or less to break down the 231. Much longer to swap out tranny output.

Also fluid to fluid is way more efficient to cool fluid than air. A good air cooler with separate fan is still good to cool trans fluid though.

Keep up the work, it gets drawn out near the end but the results will be worth it. Heard mine run for the first time tonight!


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I went AA also. The 27 spline input was the biggest factor. With 4l60e this combo could have easily worked to keep both driveshafts. It takes an hour or less to break down the 231. Much longer to swap out tranny output.

Also fluid to fluid is way more efficient to cool fluid than air. A good air cooler with separate fan is still good to cool trans fluid though.

Keep up the work, it gets drawn out near the end but the results will be worth it. Heard mine run for the first time tonight!
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