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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:26 PM   #16
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Can't wait to see how the build goes!

I have a full set of JK MOABS and 1.5" wheel spacers if you end up needing a set.
Thanks! I actually just scored a set of spidertrax 1.5" wheel spacers on CL tonight, thanks for the offer though. Wheels and tires will have to wait till the Jeep fund recovers a little.
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Look forward to Moab trip story and build up of the WJ
Thanks. I'm getting pretty excited. I'll be sure to take a ton of pictures.
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Loved my WJ, youll love it too.. Good luck on the build!
I think I will. It fits me pretty well.

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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:32 PM   #17
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Sliders:


I finished fabbing up my sliders today. Here's what I came up with.

Took 3 pieces of 3X4" 1/4" flat bar and bolted it to the frame with thread forming bolts. Then I bolted some 1X 1/4" flat bar to the pinch weld.

Like so. (basically a rip off of the JCR sliders except I used 3 legs instead of 2)



I used 3X4" 3/16" wall rectangle tube for the sliders and 1X2" 1/8" rectangle tube for the legs.

Ended up like so



I'll paint them up tomorrow.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:43 PM   #18
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Unread 09-21-2013, 09:15 PM   #19
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Got a lot done today.

Painted and installed the rocker guards.



Then I figured I would pull the front end apart, check for any issues and test the bump stops with my new wheel spacers installed.

This is at full stuff with the spacers.





It was getting into the washer bottle and to my surprise the bumper. I would think the Trailready bumper would be ready for at least a 32" tire. It is not.

It always amazes me when people install a lift kit and then take it wheeling without checking clearances. It's super easy when you install the lift. Pull the springs, and jack the axle up until the bump stop is fully compressed and check what hits and what has to move.

So I did this



And this



And pulled this out



And put a ZJ one under the hood. Here's how I set the pumps up. I put my WJ pumps in it so I didn't have to hack into the wiring and drilled a hole for the WJ level sensor since the ZJ didn't have one.



And put it here.



I had a 50/50 chance of getting the lines ran to the right pump, but of course I messed that up, so I get to pull it out and switch them later.

When I pulled my springs out to check the flex I found this.



Very common on WJ's.

I had some left over tube from when I did my axle mounts on the Beast, so I whipped these up.



I also noticed the PO didn't have any way of securing the anti sway bar when it's disconnected.

So I put this here



Then bent and bolted this to it



And secured it with one of these



The PO had double steering dampeners installed. The bottom one looked like a rock magnet so I pulled it off.



I spent way too much time on the front end so I didn't get a chance to compress the back end, but full droop isn't going to drop any springs so that's good.

I also installed my spacers. You can see the rub marks from the tire due to the super high back spacing of the stock Jeep wheels.



That's all for today. I have it loaded on the trailer and ready to go wheeling tomorrow! Hope nothing falls off....
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Unread 09-22-2013, 09:32 PM   #20
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It will be fun to watch what you come up with this time . Hated to see you sell the beast , but this one should be a beauty .
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Unread 09-22-2013, 09:36 PM   #21
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Looks good so far man. Keep up the work.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 10:05 PM   #22
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nice looking start. I just recently switched from a WJ to a TJ lol. from looking at your pictures, I would suggest getting rid of the Transfercase drop kit, it isn't needed at all. in looking forward to seeing where this goes! I miss my WJ a lot and I'm slowly building my wife's WJ still.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 11:54 PM   #23
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It will be fun to watch what you come up with this time . Hated to see you sell the beast , but this one should be a beauty .
Thanks! I'm trying to keep myself in control and not build my way out of a nice rig that does what I need to do. Well see how that goes!
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Looks good so far man. Keep up the work.
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nice looking start. I just recently switched from a WJ to a TJ lol. from looking at your pictures, I would suggest getting rid of the Transfercase drop kit, it isn't needed at all. in looking forward to seeing where this goes! I miss my WJ a lot and I'm slowly building my wife's WJ still.
I'm defiantly ditching the T case drop. I just ran out of time re-engineering the front end since the "professional shop" did such a great job. I don't know if you noticed, but they dropped the transmission and put the spacers for the T-case skid on the wrong side.

Had a good time in the woods today. Jeep did great. I was pretty impressed with the vari-loc axles. While no substitute for an actual locker, they were worlds better than open axles. This Jeep is a bit fatter (and heavier) than the beast, so it take a little different driving style, but we hit all the normal trails and I made everything unassisted. One weird thing - I tried to "load" the limited slip a little with the brakes and I head some popping sounds from the front end. Everything still seems to be just fine, I guess it's just the locker's way of saying - that's enough.

It was raining, so not too many pictures, but here are a couple.







No body damage today. I did scrape some paint off my rock sliders, so they did their job.

I really need to do something about the suspension. It's pretty rough. 4" short arm suspension isn't going to cut it for a long distance explorer. Long arm build is going to be moved up the list pretty quick.

Also, I am going to want some real lockers. Still on the fence between JK axles swap and ARB front / Iron center section swap rear with ARB.

I placed an order from some spare front axle shafts from Rockatuo. Only $45 a side so that's cheap insurance for Moab.

I'm going to have to figure out a better way of securing my Jeep to the trailer... I had it attached to the hitch and the front bumper and it wasn't enough angle since my trailer mounts were almost directly below where I attached it to the Jeep and it slid forward on the trailer a bit. There isn't a really good place to attach the straps on the axle with the way the brake lines are routed but I'm going to have to attach them there somehow to get more angle on the straps.

I did manage to fab up a spare tire mount for my trailer just in time for me to realize I had a flat trailer tire....
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Unread 09-24-2013, 09:34 AM   #24
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I had a pretty exciting drive home last night. On the freeway on my way home from work I had some pretty violent death wobble. I slowed down and pulled over and slowly got back to speed, hit a small bump and more DW. So I took the side streets home and pulled it into the garage.

All the usual suspects looked ok, tie rod ends, ball joints, wheel bearings. Then I noticed both sides of the steering dampener were loose. That certainly wasn't helping things, but not the cause of DW. I threw my angle finder on the top BJ. 0 degrees of caster. So I adjusted my control arms to around 4 degrees and called it good. I also noticed the morons who installed the lift put a drop pitman arm on the thing without correcting the track bar to match. So I ordered a stock pitman arm from Rock auto 2nd day air. I also noticed the drop pitman arm hits the skid plate when it's turned so that can't be too good either.

The drive this morning was fine, no DW and tracked better. I can imagine this thing will drive like a dream once the drop pitman is gone.
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Unread 09-27-2013, 08:31 AM   #25
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Transmission drop removed, new stock pitman installed, loaded on the trailer ready to go! I'll be on the road to Moab in 8 hours.

Pictures to come.
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i have a 2001 jeep wj with quadr drive. i want to put a 4in lift any suggestions
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Unread 10-05-2013, 12:39 PM   #27
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If you treat this thing with the same quality you built the TJ with, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.

JK axle swap on a WJ and a nice suspension would be awesome.
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Unread 10-09-2013, 10:44 PM   #28
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If you treat this thing with the same quality you built the TJ with, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.

JK axle swap on a WJ and a nice suspension would be awesome.

Thanks! A JK swap on a WJ would be awesome! Too bad I won't get to find out this time....

Trip to Moab was amazing. I was blown away by the scenery and the wheeling. If you haven't been before and you have anything with 4wd, you owe it to yourself to get down there. I drove 18 hours each way to get there, so no excuses. It was worth it. There is plenty to do there even if all you have is a stock Jeep and some recovery points and some friends to tag along with.

I did Fins and Things, Moab Rim, Hells Revenge, and Poison Spyder Mesa. I tagged along the last day with my brother in law to do Golden Spike on the last day. The WJ did far more than I expected it to. The Variloc limited slips didn't impress me with the slippery NW trails, but were a perfect match for Moab. I had some very surprised looks from fellow Jeepers on Moab Rim. They were shocked and amazed what I could do with a stock looking WJ.

Carnage report: jumped a sand step-up and broke and snapped a CV and bent the axle housing. We had two days left, so I used a bottle jack and some chain to straighten it out as best as I could and swapped my spare CV in. The "trail ready" bumper bent when the tire rubbed it. It is made out of 1/8" steel and has no support behind it. I really do not recommend this bumper unless the most wheeling you will see is at the mall.
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