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post #511 of 732 Old 06-21-2013, 06:58 PM
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Do you have your motor mount lift on yet? Looks like a steep driveline angle for being at ride height. I'd jack up the frame and let it droop and see if it binds. May be fine.... I dunno, just my initial reaction.

Edit: just saw that you mentioned fixing the pinion angle.... but it already looks pretty high.

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post #512 of 732 Old 06-21-2013, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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Do you have your motor mount lift on yet? Looks like a steep driveline angle for being at ride height. I'd jack up the frame and let it droop and see if it binds. May be fine.... I dunno, just my initial reaction.

Edit: just saw that you mentioned fixing the pinion angle.... but it already looks pretty high.
I noticed that as well... The MML is installed. Setting the pinion correctly should help the angle alittle bit, but I am worried about bind at full droop as well. I guess I'll find out tomorrow when I cycle the suspension.
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post #513 of 732 Old 06-21-2013, 08:03 PM
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The new skid looks great , glad you got the adapter figured out . Now to get the driveshaft / pinion angle figured out ...

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post #514 of 732 Old 06-22-2013, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
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Got the pinion angle set.

Before:


After:


The angle looks to be more acceptable then before, but I still need to cycle everything and check for binding.
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post #515 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
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So, here's the problem. Now that the rear pinion as been rotated up the shock body now interferes with the spring perch. No surprise there.


The question is how to fix it. I figure I have three options:

1: Switch the bar pin from one side to the other.
This would be the simplest fix, but with only a small vice to use I'm worried about destroying the bushings.



2: Trim the spring perch.
I have no problems cutting the spring perch to fit the shock. What worries me is the hard line for the brakes. Where it's currently located limits how much I can remove from the perch, and if I need to remove more I now have to deal with rerouting the brake line, which is the last thing I want to do.


3: Get extenders for the shock mount.
The least desirable option in my opinion and a band-aide at best.


I'm resisting the urge to preform exploratory surgery and hack things up only to go a different direction.
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post #516 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 02:16 PM
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Move the lower mounts to the back of the lower control arm bracket. Will require welding though.

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post #517 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 02:20 PM
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Move the lower mounts to the back of the lower control arm bracket. Will require welding though.
I agree.

Best way is to move the mounts. Raise them up and out to allow more room. If you can't do that due to welding just get the extenders cuz even if u cut the spring perch it still doesn't look like you'll have enough room

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post #518 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 02:42 PM
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outboard the rear shocks

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post #519 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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Move the lower mounts to the back of the lower control arm bracket. Will require welding though.
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I agree.

Best way is to move the mounts. Raise them up and out to allow more room.
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I would absolutely love to move the lower shock mounts, upper spring perches, and outboard the upper shock mounts. But, I don't have a welder. Which is something I need to change really soon.

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If you can't do that due to welding just get the extenders cuz even if u cut the spring perch it still doesn't look like you'll have enough room.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks there's not enough room even if I cut the perch. I guess the next question I have to ask my self is if all extenders are created equal. I did a quick search on Qtec to get a rough idea on prices. Teraflex is around $38, Currie around $33 and JKS is about $64. I'm thinking Currie. They look to be the cheapest and simplest. Plus if I buy through Qtec I can get them in a day or so. Decisions decisions...

PS. I'm thinking the extenders will be a "temporary" fix until I can get a welder and get up to speed on it. The it's game on for an outboard etc.
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Where in Ct are you? I have a welder but is the jeep drivable?

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post #521 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 07:24 PM
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I'd do the extenders as a temp fix, then a complete outboard. Just quit messing around and buy the welder man. It's going to happen..... might as well be sooner than later. After that, little issues like this will actually make you happy....... since you get to fabricate and weld.
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Where in Ct are you? I have a welder but is the jeep drivable?
Groton. The Jeep isn't drivable in its current condition.
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post #523 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 07:33 PM
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I had the same issue, I purchased the Currie shock extenders but my shocks were too long to use them so I just trimmed the bucket. No issues with the brakeline I just put a piece of steel over it while I trimmed. If you want I can take pics of how much I ground off.

I still have those extenders sitting in the garage. My plan is to outboard later as well.
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I'd do the extenders as a temp fix, then a complete outboard. Just quit messing around and buy the welder man. It's going to happen..... might as well be sooner than later. After that, little issues like this will actually make you happy....... since you get to fabricate and weld.
Believe me, it's at the top of the wish list. I can't count the number of times in the last 2 or so months that I've gone "Man, I wish I had a welder for X". I'm ready to buy, but my current living situation/location aren't the most conductive for owning a welder. Then again, I'm close to say to hell with it and buying one anyway and figuring the details out later. The local Tractor Supply sure has some nice Hobarts...
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post #525 of 732 Old 06-24-2013, 07:47 PM
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I'd be willing to help ya out man and let you use my welder but I dont have any means of getting it to you so if you can somehow get the jeep to me your in business.

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