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post #121 of 543 Old 08-14-2012, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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Yup one inch is all that I wanted to do. There are guys out there running no body lift with the 4bt and no tub cutting.

I will not have to cut, massage or do anything to my tub. I was also skeptical but its true!!! I will be sure to take as many pics as I can.


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post #122 of 543 Old 08-14-2012, 11:12 PM
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Do you plan on a tummy tuck? I always thought a piece of 1/4" plate steel, flat all the way across would be sweet. Just don't know how much body lift that would require.

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post #123 of 543 Old 08-15-2012, 04:52 AM
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What did you do to correct the starter interference? I was looking at mine and I could see the passenger side upper control arm may be an issue with my starter on the 4bt.
I had to fab up new control arm brackets,which wasn't to bad to do. What are you going to do about the 8 degree engine tilt to the left?
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post #124 of 543 Old 08-15-2012, 06:34 AM
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Papitt...I saw sticker the other day on a first gen Dodge truck it said " I'd rather be cummin than strokin " I thought that was awesome. tacky but awesome. There is no way my better half would allow that on anything I drive.
I have that on the back window of my Dodge. I actually caught a woman explaining it to her mom, I think, behind at a stop light. When she seen I was watching her hand jestures she cracked up laughing.

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post #125 of 543 Old 08-15-2012, 09:40 AM Thread Starter
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Cummins5552,

The engine is tilted because the motor mounts are not in yet. The main weight of the engine is still supported by the hoist. The starter is hanging up on the control arm mount causing the motor to slant.

Cycleguy04,

I do not plan on running a tummy tuck right now. Maybe down the road but not right now.

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post #126 of 543 Old 08-15-2012, 02:06 PM
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The starter is hanging up on the control arm mount causing the motor to slant.
What are your plans for a fix?

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post #127 of 543 Old 08-15-2012, 02:43 PM Thread Starter
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I am going to cut entire top of the mount and then maybe like 1/2 an inch down on the side and see if an angle wont reduce the interference . I dont need much.

I dont think it will interfere with the control arm function.

You guys have any suggestions.

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post #128 of 543 Old 08-15-2012, 08:04 PM
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I am going to cut entire top of the mount and then maybe like 1/2 an inch down on the side and see if an angle wont reduce the interference . I dont need much.

I dont think it will interfere with the control arm function.

You guys have any suggestions.
Becareful cutting the bends of the mount. the bends give the metal its strength. hence "I" iron. The bends make ridgity. The only thing I would be afraid of is with the motion of the arm that it will snap or bend the mount. If I was you i would cut and do whatever you have to do but I would re-inforce the mount molding the existing mount wherever possible. Basically I would just overlap the bends and whatever else you can. I'm just guessing. I'm trying to think how much force is put on it. I think if your bushings are solid and no play exists you probably would be ok leaving as is after your done with the fitment issues. Just my suggestion. When you are ready to do it you will make the choice I'm just the peanut gallery

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post #129 of 543 Old 08-16-2012, 06:15 AM
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I was watching I think it might have been gearz with Stacy David. But he took an old straight frame semi. And put a built up Duramax In it. And the motor mounts he took like rebar kinda and joined the frame side and motor side with that. Then covered it in sheet steal.

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post #130 of 543 Old 08-16-2012, 01:06 PM Thread Starter
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Cowboyup94. I decided to take your advice about the bends in the upper control arm mount.

So this morning i cut the top inside bend out and actually flipped it.



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After i flipped it i then welded it in.



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Then re installed the engine to check for clearances .



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Nice little trick you did there lol

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post #132 of 543 Old 08-16-2012, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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Tonight i am going to get the motor mounts welded in. Hopefully.



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Does the length of bolt in between the bushing and the bracket fastened to the engine concern you? Seems like a recipe for shearing.

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Tonight i am going to get the motor mounts welded in. Hopefully.



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I know they say these are tested but I swear they dont look very strong.
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post #135 of 543 Old 08-16-2012, 10:50 PM
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Amazing build man..you left no stone unturned and explained everything..great work and great thread.ill be watching yours too..I'm hoping to have mine driving in a month or 2. But yeah good luck,sub'd.
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