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Unread 10-10-2010, 09:01 PM   #46
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Unread 10-11-2010, 03:37 PM   #47
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JK44's are much stronger. Essentially, they're mini Dana 60's. I have a buddy that runs them with 37" mtr's and chromo shafts in a jk unlimited rubi. he's not nice to it at all and they've held up amazingly.
haha, I'm guessing that'd be Mike? What made you choose the JK44 though, over any other axle, especially since you bought them new, only to cut off all the brackets? What kinds of advantages/disadvantages over, say, a HP 44 or waggy axles did you take into account?
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Unread 10-11-2010, 04:09 PM   #48
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haha, I'm guessing that'd be Mike?
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Unread 10-11-2010, 06:58 PM   #49
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this thing looks freakin awesome. I will be watching this. And i rarely go on JF anymore so thats saying a lot
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Unread 10-11-2010, 08:20 PM   #50
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haha, I'm guessing that'd be Mike? What made you choose the JK44 though, over any other axle, especially since you bought them new, only to cut off all the brackets? What kinds of advantages/disadvantages over, say, a HP 44 or waggy axles did you take into account?
The JK Dana 44's are a lot stronger then the TJ/LJ Dana 44's as long as you brace the upper part of the C's in the front. The gears are bigger, tubes are thicker, shafts are stronger the whole 9. The front I just got a used housing, unit bearings are bigger, and the beadlocks I had a line on were 5x5 bolt pattern so it worked out nice. Three main reasons I picked the JK Dana 44's over the TJ/LJ Dana 44's is that the brakes are much larger (easy to stop my 37's), they are wider then TJ/LJ 44's but are not full widths, and they come with e-lockers factory. So the rear JK rubicon 44 I bought new already had the factory e-locker in it for $1600 complete caliper to caliper. That means I buy gears and an install kit and have a brand new 4.10 ring and pinion to sell.

If I was going to put anything else under it axle wise it would have been 60's but I didnt want full widths, and the pumpkin would be like right under my frame rail and I didnt want to have run a big lift or limit my up travel to almost nothing with bumpstops, and everything for 60's (gears, locker, shafts and so on) cost a twice as much as JK stuff. Also 60's would cut my ground clearance down a lot.
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Unread 10-11-2010, 08:29 PM   #51
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Ok, that all makes pretty good sense. Correct me if I didn't read that right, but you're saying the ring and pinion are a different size than a standard D44?
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Unread 10-11-2010, 10:27 PM   #52
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Unread 10-11-2010, 10:47 PM   #53
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Ok, that all makes pretty good sense. Correct me if I didn't read that right, but you're saying the ring and pinion are a different size than a standard D44?
Yes the pinion is deffinitly different, the ring gear I'm not possitive yes or no but I would have to imagine it is also.

Jeep Wrangler JK TJ Dana 44 Axles - 4Wheel & Off-Road Magazine


OLD 44's VS JK
Position - Low Pinion VS High Pinion
Pinion Shaft Max Diam - 1.375" VS 1.625"
Pinion Shaft Min Diam - 1.125 VS 1.375 (compare that to the old max!)
Pinion Diam - 1.12 VS 1.25
Inner Bearing Diam - 3.0 VS 3.25
Outer Bearing Diam - 2.87 VS 2.85
Carrier Bearing Diam - 3.265 VS 3.313
Axle u-joint - 1310 VS 1350
Tube Diam & Wall - 2.5X.025 VS 2.5X.025
(Some 44's do have as large as 2.76x.375 or as small as 2.0x.025)
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Unread 10-12-2010, 02:57 PM   #54
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you want to turn those CBs (cinderblocks) so that the holes are up and put a 2x8 on top... I have had to pick up an ugly mess from a guy who had one crack and brake while supporting his CJ... it was real shame he had just gotten the tube back from the paint shop...

looks like your LJ is going to be a pretty solid rig! I hooked...
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Unread 10-13-2010, 10:50 PM   #55
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Just a little update...

The front e-locker came in today thanks to Brian Stewart @ 4WD.COM.


And I got my custom Rock Krawler framerails all cleaned up to powdercoat tomorrow.



I tore my rear axle apart over the weekend and started setting up the gears but something came up and I had to take off. So this weekend seeing that I have everything I need for both my axles I should be throwing them back together.
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Unread 10-14-2010, 01:34 AM   #56
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very nice.. I like the frame rails.. are they aluminum? if not how much do they weigh you think?

what's up with the e-locker? why not an air compressed locker? your disappointing me brother
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Unread 10-14-2010, 06:00 AM   #57
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I admire folks that can tear up a "perfectly good" ride, to make it into something "perfectly awesome"!

I'm not a welder, so this question may be stupid but....

How did you ensure all the **** you needed to weld onto the axle was put on perfectly true? I mean, if something were off by just a little bit wouldn't that possibly make for some pretty bad vibes at the least, or failures at worst? Or is it just a case of "it's close enough"?

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Unread 10-14-2010, 08:14 PM   #58
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The frame rails are deffinitly not aluminum at 40 lbs a piece lol, and as for locker i hate air lines. I want to hit the switch and call it a day. I've seen a few buddys of mine always playing with their air lockers wether it be leaking lines or other stuff. And my e-locker is cheaper.

As for welding the cradle and the control arm mounts ect. onto the axles its rather simple, If you know your way around a tape measure and an angle finder its pretty easy. Also in a setup like mine (rear triangulated 4 link) you can fine tune the pinion angle, center the axle under the vehicle and so on just by knowing how to adjust the control arms accordingly. No guess work involved.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 06:21 AM   #59
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you want to turn those CBs (cinderblocks) so that the holes are up and put a 2x8 on top... I have had to pick up an ugly mess from a guy who had one crack and brake while supporting his CJ... it was real shame he had just gotten the tube back from the paint shop...

looks like your LJ is going to be a pretty solid rig! I hooked...
x2 on turning those cinderblocks.....I've known lot's of people who have used them like you are (including myself) and haven't had a problem with them breaking. But, they aren't designed to have weight applied to them like that.

Great build you have going here definatly can't wait to see this finished.
Quick question on the XJ....how did you like the OR Fab front bumper?
I really like the looks of those and would like to put one on my Cherokee.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 10:25 AM   #60
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Sick build, liked your old xj too!
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