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Unread 06-19-2013, 04:39 PM   #1396
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He's got a 6 speed!

And I was disappointed not to meet you in Moab man!
What a man...

I know. I wanted to met you all too...a series of 'unfortunate' events occurred just prior to the trip. Not to get into too much detail, but we ended up firing two people at work just before the trip and I was covering all their work. If I would have come I just would have been ****ing myself the next week, so to speak. Then my dog had a serious injury forcing me to pony up fifteen hundred doll hairs so I wasn't really in a spending mood. We live close enough to Moab that I'm sure our paths will cross in the future.

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Unread 06-19-2013, 04:52 PM   #1397
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I just feel like I've accomplished all I can, or even more than I should have done at 94". I do want to cruise the Rubicon this summer, and run Chocolate thunder, (ART, lets go!) before I make changes, just for kicks and before I retire the D35. I guess if I wait till winter I can do the 8.8 swap also.....
Id be up for some Rubicon wheeling this summer. Heck I might even be up for chocate thunder. That one looks fun.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 05:18 PM   #1398
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I just feel like I've accomplished all I can, or even more than I should have done at 94". I do want to cruise the Rubicon this summer, and run Chocolate thunder, (ART, lets go!) before I make changes, just for kicks and before I retire the D35. I guess if I wait till winter I can do the 8.8 swap also.....
If you have plans of ever going bigger then 37's I would jump to a wider axle and skip the 8.8. I love my 8.8 but its to narrow for those bigger tires
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Unread 06-19-2013, 06:35 PM   #1399
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What a man...

I know. I wanted to met you all too...a series of 'unfortunate' events occurred just prior to the trip. Not to get into too much detail, but we ended up firing two people at work just before the trip and I was covering all their work. If I would have come I just would have been ****ing myself the next week, so to speak. Then my dog had a serious injury forcing me to pony up fifteen hundred doll hairs so I wasn't really in a spending mood. We live close enough to Moab that I'm sure our paths will cross in the future.
All good brother. I just might head over to CO and run some trails with you and then back track to Moab next time. Those trails looked like a lot of fun!

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Id be up for some Rubicon wheeling this summer. Heck I might even be up for chocate thunder. That one looks fun.
Ok, I'll hold you to it! When I'm ready to make the trip I'll let you know.

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If you have plans of ever going bigger then 37's I would jump to a wider axle and skip the 8.8. I love my 8.8 but its to narrow for those bigger tires
37 would be end game. I'm still happy with my 35's though. Stretched front and rear, with maybe a 1" wheel spacer all around. I can only imagine the gains in stability, approach and departure angle. My "dream" scenario right now, for stage eleveteen is 104" wheelbase, Nicely set up 8.8, Nicely set up HPD30 (allowing me to hand down my current axles to my son) 1" wheel spacers in leu of new wheels with a different offset, and a completely flat belly. Then the Jump to 37's maybe another year down the road would be pretty straight forward if I so choose..... I think this is an attainable goal. Funds permitting, I feel like I'm ready to dig in as far as my wrenching/building abilities go.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 06:37 PM   #1400
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My inter web is working again!!!! 5 days without internet sucked. Pretty sad!
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Unread 06-19-2013, 06:39 PM   #1401
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You can do what mike did and run a sterling with your 37's Full width and about the same clearance as an 8.8.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:00 PM   #1402
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He's got a 6 speed!

And I was disappointed not to meet you in Moab man!
I can wheel and work the manual trans on sandals, barefoot or with my wooden shoes go figure
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:10 PM   #1403
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You can do what mike did and run a sterling with your 37's Full width and about the same clearance as an 8.8.
I don't know... I'm so attached to my current high clearance competition axle, it's hard to stray to far.

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You're a legend Art.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:13 PM   #1404
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In my own mind lol
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Its definitely a hard decision.

And I agree Art is a legend
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In my own mind lol
Haha aren't we all...
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:39 PM   #1407
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All good brother. I just might head over to CO and run some trails with you and then back track to Moab next time. Those trails looked like a lot of fun!



Ok, I'll hold you to it! When I'm ready to make the trip I'll let you know.



37 would be end game. I'm still happy with my 35's though. Stretched front and rear, with maybe a 1" wheel spacer all around. I can only imagine the gains in stability, approach and departure angle. My "dream" scenario right now, for stage eleveteen is 104" wheelbase, Nicely set up 8.8, Nicely set up HPD30 (allowing me to hand down my current axles to my son) 1" wheel spacers in leu of new wheels with a different offset, and a completely flat belly. Then the Jump to 37's maybe another year down the road would be pretty straight forward if I so choose..... I think this is an attainable goal. Funds permitting, I feel like I'm ready to dig in as far as my wrenching/building abilities go.
Where you are hurting now is gearing and 37's are not going to make that better. So unless it gets an injection of horsepower, axles with better gearing options and a deeper transfer case should go to the top of the list.
Neither one is cheap but makes big rocks and steep stuff a lot more manageable. Stretching the rear is cake, front not quite so, best approach to that is cut that round front crossmember and move the steering box as forward as you can
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Unread 06-19-2013, 08:00 PM   #1408
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Where you are hurting now is gearing and 37's are not going to make that better. So unless it gets an injection of horsepower, axles with better gearing options and a deeper transfer case should go to the top of the list.
Neither one is cheap but makes big rocks and steep stuff a lot more manageable. Stretching the rear is cake, front not quite so, best approach to that is cut that round front crossmember and move the steering box as forward as you can
I agree Art, I think the gearing I have with 35's isn't terrible, but lower than 4:1 would be nice in some situations. I'm pretty good at modulating that clutch so I think I have decent control in the technical stuff. I'd like to focus my efforts this year on getting some wheelbase into the rig, and leave the gearing alone. After I tackle the rear.... I plan to really study and get the front figured out, following a "lite" version of what you and Mike have done. Budget is going to be a concern more than ever this year so we'll see how it goes. It may just be how it is for a while....... which isn't a bad thing. It get's around pretty good.
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Unread 06-20-2013, 06:03 AM   #1409
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Lower than 4:1? Are you kidding me? My friend has 4.88 and 37 reds with his 4 banger. Yes he has to ride the clutch a little, but never to the point of making it smoke or nothing. It's a 4 cylinder so you are not going to make gobs of power, and you have to accept that.

If you are building a whole new front axle, i wouldn't **** with a hp 30. Especially if you are planning to stretch it. The only reason people do a 30 is because they want the ease of install or its already built from there 35 stage. If you are opening the whole front stretch can of worms i wouldn't mess around with that. If you spend a tad more you could have a waggy 44. My same friend with the 4 cyl runs his 37 reds on a waggy 44. It has held up just fine. He spit one ujoint cap after 3 years, and put rcvs in it. A hp 30 aint gonna hold up an extended amount of time on 37s. I don't see any of the people on here that run a hp 30 with 37s going wheeling more than 2 or 3 times a year. And i've seen more breakage in dana 30s than anything.

Also 104 is long! Why 104? You aren't planning to race it I assume. I'd say 100-102 would be best for you.
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I say stick with the 35s club
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