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post #301 of 322 Old 09-08-2017, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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You are a real artist with those diagrams, Jay.
Ha! Thanks....or maybe just a CAD nerd. ;-)


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post #302 of 322 Old 09-10-2017, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
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A bunch of guys got together yesterday at the local spot. My buddy unfortunately got a little carried away and rolled his JKU. Luckily he and the Jeep were ~ok~ thanks to his cage. Watching him roll has really lit a fire under my but to finish my own cage. image-2006572724.jpg image-2193004256.jpg image-3562655885.jpg Name:  image-702621052.jpg
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In light of the previous post, I got some work done last night on my cage plans. I do plan to add a short spreader bar between the two center bars over the rear seating area, but this is pretty much what I want to do.
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post #304 of 322 Old 09-10-2017, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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I finally installed my updated early generation Savvy skid. The old one was still in decent condition but a few years ago a shop owner friend of mine got a little saw happy when I wasn't around to supervise what he was doing. On my specific Jeep, the skid for some reason comes into contact with the edge of the trans pan on the drivers side and needs to be notched. The photo below was the result of his handy work. I talked to Savvy about it at the time and they told me not to worry about it. Still, it has always bugged me. I was lucky enough to snag one of, if not "the" last early generation skid which was sitting around in there warehouse long after they changed the design to a more modular system image-527603913.jpg image-945267965.jpg There were minor differences between the two skids. I noticed the newer model was slightly shorter in length. Also the older model skid had steel side braces that needed to be bolted in place during assembly. You can see one of the braces in the first photo. The newer skid had these brackets already plug welded in place. Everything fit up perfectly as would be expected from Gerald and the guys at Savvy. Always quality stuff coming out of there. The notch is much cleaner now. The angle and lighting of the photo makes it look like that bolt is contacting the edge of the skid but its actually an optical illusion. image-1778383198.jpg On a side note, let me offer a word of warning to any of you guys who have the early generation Under Armor. Watch your cap screw lengths at the oil pan access cover. Savvy included shorter length cap screws with the UA kit to hold the cover up in the recess. If you lose these shorter screws, make sure you replace them with screws of equal or shorter length. Obviously this was entirely my fault, nothing to do with Savvy's design, but I ended up stabbing a longer cap screws through my brand spanking new oil pan during a hard river crossing last year. And I do mean hard...I somehow hammered down on that access cover on a huge bolder that was hidden under about 30" of quick moving river water. To this day I have no idea how I managed to get the front end up and over it without noticing. I hope there are no EPA agents in here. I lost nearly the entire pan of oil on the river bank. I did manage to catch and bag a quart or so, but most of if hit the ground. image-752291682.jpg Luckily I was able to MacGyver it on the trail with a tapping screw some padded tape and RTV and one of the guys brought oil. image-2190975636.jpg
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My short cap screws wandered off someplace yesterday...as they love to do...so I wound up shaving down a couple longer ones. I went all the way down to the nut to be safe
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post #305 of 322 Old 09-11-2017, 06:11 AM
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In light of the previous post, I got some work done last night on my cage plans. I do plan to add a short spreader bar between the two center bars over the rear seating area, but this is pretty much what I want to do.
Really like the cage design. Only suggestion might be to add one more member between the two top pieces of tube that are bent. Not that you will need the strength, but you will definitely increase the strength by connecting the nodes at those bends to each other. If you every rolled the Jeep backwards on a steep climb and the cage got hit from the back, those bent pieces could in theory try to bend towards each other. Likely would never happen, but it would be a pretty easy and inexpensive addition to the design.

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? Maybe it's time for that first cup of coffee? ;-)image-4133502076.jpg

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...huh? Maybe it's time for that first cup of coffee? ;-)
Wow, perhaps you are right! Just ignore me and continue on with your awesome build then haha

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post #308 of 322 Old 09-11-2017, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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Wow, perhaps you are right! Just ignore me and continue on with your awesome build then haha
Haha! No worries. Feel free to chime in whenever. Thanks for the input regardless.

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post #309 of 322 Old 09-12-2017, 05:36 AM
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Have you thought of a bar behind the rear seat, like a harness bar? Good work as usual.

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post #310 of 322 Old 09-12-2017, 08:15 AM Thread Starter
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Have you thought of a bar behind the rear seat, like a harness bar? Good work as usual. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Thanks. But na, I think that would be over kill for me. I'm looking to maximize my cargo capacity in the back. I'm more set up for overland trips than the type of hard core wheeling that would call for that much cage. I used to have my Hi-Lift jack mounted horizontally on the cage across the back just over the tailgate where you would ideally put that bar.

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It drove me nuts every time I had to load tall objects like bikes or stacks of coolers. I'd have to pull the jack off the mounts, load what ever I needed and then reinstall it. After a while I ended up relocating the mounting brackets up at the top of the cage to get it out of the way.

Also flexibility is very important to me. My plan is to have 2 mounting positions for the rear seat. One position in the original TJ location, leaving 15" more room in front of the seat, and one position 12.5" forward of that leaving more room behind the seat. The harness bar would be useless with the seat in the forward position.

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I got my forward seat mount position mocked up this afternoon. I figure I'd better do that before I get too far into the cage design. I wouldn't want to finish the cage and then discover a problem with head room. I also need to figure out the best place to mount my shoulder strap bungs. I'm gaining 2.5" of leg room over the Factory TJ, with a whopping 12.5" gain in rear cargo space. I'm not sure what the LJs have in comparison. Anybody know? image-3463690033.jpgimage-4114376153.jpg

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I'm not sure what the LJs have in comparison. Anybody know?
I think it's 2" more in an unlimited. I moved mine back 6", and my 14 year old still complains, but he's 5'11" and wearing size 14s.

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I think it's 2" more in an unlimited. I moved mine back 6", and my 14 year old still complains, but he's 5'11" and wearing size 14s.
WOW! What are you feeding that kid?! I actually wear a size 14 myself. But at his age I was only around a size 12. Good luck finding shoes if those dogs get any bigger lol! My 5 year old girl is finally starting to grow. I've had my fingers crossed. I come from 3 generations of giants, but my wife's family are all tiny.

Thanks for the input. I guess I've bested the LJ by .5"

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Mock up time!

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post #315 of 322 Old 09-17-2017, 09:54 AM
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Looking now at the brackets you are making for your rear seat, I think is how Chrysler should have made the LJ tub. Would have given storage under the back seat without losing any bed area with the seat installed and could have made a box to install if you wanted to retain the flat bed area without the seat instead of just empty space under the tub open to the air, it would also give more foot room to the back seat passengers. I will be making and in stalling front seat risers on my LJ just to gain a little foot room.

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