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post #1 of 30 Old 01-19-2017, 02:56 PM Thread Starter
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My slower than crap CJ5 build.

People like photos, so I'll start out with one.



Got my new (to me) 1979 Jeep CJ5 today. This is my 3rd CJ5, but the last one I had was when Regan was in office. I decided to start my build thread on the same day I took delivery, but please do not expect a complete build in a short time. You see I'm poor. Well, OK, maybe not poor poor, but I'm living off my VA disability, so there's not a lot of cash raining down on me.


My starting point is rough not only due to the 38 year old vehicle, but the jurry rigged stuff done by others. Oh, I'll jurry rig stuff too, but there are some things I need to address. This thing was modified into a sand toy a couple of owners ago. She has a strong 360 under the hood with a 4 barrel, headers, a mild cam, and MSD ignition. Trans is a Torqueflite 727. Transfer case is supposed to be a Dana 20. Axles are from a full size Dodge truck, 4.88 geared and mounted SOA on 33x12.50s. They are Dana 44 in front, with lockouts, and 9.25 rear with a Detroit locker. They have 4 wheel discs brakes, but not power brakes. No top, no doors, no heater or defrost, rusty spots to fix, and the aforementioned jurry rigged stuff.


She will not be a daily driver. I will use her as a weekend wheeling vehicle, but I do want to make enough changes to her to be able to take her on longer trips. I have visions of Black Bear Pass, MOAB, Drummond Island MI, and even Alaska... in 2019. Most of the time she ventures off the beaten path will be right here in good old Indiana at the Badlands Off Road Park an hr south of me. I'm going to do her up as a copy of an M38A1, but in desert colors like the vehicles I drove in Iraq. She'll probably get a soft top one of these days, but the plastic racing seats are going away by spring. My spine is too mangled up for anything other than good suspension seats. She is not intended to be anything other than a fun vehicle to go exploring in, and I'm not a good welder or fabricator, so don't expect to see top notch workmanship.


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post #2 of 30 Old 01-20-2017, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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Noticed some things...

It may have the YJ springs on the rear. They are 2.5" wide, yet the front springs are only 2" wide.




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post #3 of 30 Old 01-20-2017, 10:51 PM Thread Starter
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One more plus is the torque arms added to control axle wrap, and the rear end rotated to keep driveline angles down.


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post #4 of 30 Old 01-20-2017, 10:53 PM Thread Starter
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Then there is stuff life the fact that the builder put new spring pads on the rear axle to match up with the width of the CJ frame, but doesn't cut the factory Dodge truck pads off, and runs a brake line under a u-bolt.



The front has the springs mounted on the Dodge truck's factory spring pads, but this was done by building a homemade bracket to widen the frame front. It's welded to the frame and front bumper. At least it looks strong enough.





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post #5 of 30 Old 01-20-2017, 11:58 PM
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This will be interesting to watch. Looks like you have some fun stuff to work with there, but also have your work cut out for you undoing some booty fab.

I'm a pretty patient guy, and also a very slow Jeep builder myself, so I think I'll sub to this one...
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post #6 of 30 Old 01-21-2017, 01:10 PM Thread Starter
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Got up to 60 today so I just had to go tinker with it. Damn thing wouldn't start, until I remembered it's old, and you have to pump the gas to make the accelerator pump squirt some fuel in. Man, that 360 sounds nice... Cost me $13 at NAPA for a deep well impact socket to fit the 1" lug nuts. It has 4 point harness that I can't get adjusted out tall enough. Just use the lap belt part for now. I'll have to take the off to get the buckle working. Had to tighten up the bolt on the steering arm where the heim joint goes on the knuckle. Didn't care for that ~60 degrees I had to saw the wheel back and forth to go in a straight line.

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post #7 of 30 Old 01-21-2017, 06:48 PM Thread Starter
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Had to go for a cruise with the weather so nice in January. Love the roar of a big American V-8. Listen to this beast.


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post #8 of 30 Old 02-03-2017, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for ideas for my first major project. I need to get the t-case in my CJ5 back up where it belongs. The builder lowered the *** end of the engine, and now the t-case too low. It may have worked for him on the sand dunes, but it won't work for me on trails through the woods. Looking for ideas to fix this mess. T-case is a Dana 20 behind a Chrysler 360 and Torqueflite 727. I also have to figure out a new place for the forward mounts to the axle wrap bars to mount, if I keep them.

This is the mess I need to fix. The t-case looks to be about 7 or 8 inches too low. Help please.














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post #9 of 30 Old 02-03-2017, 08:43 PM
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It looks like the entire back of the trans has been lowered, I think if you were to raise the whole back of the powertrain it would help. Of course the attachment for the antiwrap bars is in the way and it would hurt your rear driveshaft angles. You have your work cut out for you, good luck.

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post #10 of 30 Old 02-12-2017, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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So I got the traction bars off. You can tell that the lack of a front shackle put them under stress by the fact that they are no longer straight...




Went to test the flex, and now I think my front axle isn't powered, despite seeing the driveshaft rotate. Guess I'll have to check the hubs next.

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Found a possible CJ5 carcass to pick through from a facebook group (midwest overlanders) contact, so some parts may be coming within the next month or so.

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post #12 of 30 Old 03-20-2017, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
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Took her out for the first time Sunday. Did the first mod Sat getting ready. Needed a place to keep stuff so I put in a center console. (20mm ammo can)



Picked up a factory D20 skidplate. Going to try to get rid of that fabbed up one that hangs down so low soon.

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post #13 of 30 Old 03-22-2017, 06:32 PM Thread Starter
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Well I finally got that good test drive in. Went wheeling in her Sunday with my 4x4 club. Still gonna be a slow process, but I need to start on some things. Some parts each month, and we'll see... I'm giving myself 2 years start to finish. I will use it this summer and start the real teardown in the fall.

After driving around in her a bit I find she is lacking in the wiring and shifting departments. The PO stripped out everything he didn't need to run in the sand. I've no way to charge my phone, there are light issues, and I am kinda scared to tap into what's left of the rats nest under the dash to put in a CB. Ordering components to build a new wiring harness. Also ordering a twin stick cable shifter for the D20. Sucks having to crawl under to engage the front axle...

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post #14 of 30 Old 03-26-2017, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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I will have to keep the house up to keep the wife happy, but I'll not be putting much money into my car (2003 Mercury Marauder), or starting any gun builds for a while. I'll just drive the Jeep as she is for the summer then start teardown in the fall. I've decided to go all out. In order to get the ultimate in soft ride (along with a suspension seat), I will be doing a coilover conversion.

I have back and neck issues due to an IED attack in Iraq, so my mangled up spine, neck and right hip will thank me for the soft ride. This will also get me the bonus of great trail flex. So far my research points to using Ruff Stuff brackets, Artec Industries shock towers, and King coilovers. Goal is 2 years, but even if it takes me 5, I'm going to try to make this happen. I want my nimble little CJ5, but I need a softer ride than leaf springs can provide, or I will have to give up off road driving. Exploring trails through the woods is just too relaxing to give up.

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Here's a shot of my constant shadow Brandy and I last week on our first trip off roading in over a year. She is my 98 pound German Shepherd. (more like German Shedder) She is a service dog and is with me 24/7. The passenger seat will be replaced by a custom made platform for Brandy as she's too big to lay down on a bucket seat.

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