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Unread 12-15-2011, 11:02 AM   #76
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Ok, so I'm kind of torn.

Remember the Islander's bumper got nicked up a while back? Well we brought it in to the dealership for an oil change and to replace the soft top (still perfectly good, but there was a recall, so WTH? I'm all for a free soft top) and while we were there, we got a quote on fixing the bumper through the dealership, just because I like not giving the warranty people any reason to say 'no'.

Over $600. ****. That.

So I start looking for used stock bumpers online to replace it myself and find a few in the $100-$150 range that would work, but....if I have to replace it anyway and I'm doing it myself and I'm going to have to pay that much, I might as well upgrade!

So I start the research process and I think I've decided my most likely upgrade would be:
The Smittybilt SRC Front Grille Guard Bumper


Now I normally wouldn't even consider a Smittybilt product because of all the reviews, but I hate almost every other JK bumper out there, especially when I've narrowed the choices down to full-width only. I want D-ring shackles and the ability to add a winch in the future (Dianna's job in the future will probably have her on a lot more remote areas, so I'd like her to have it for winter....plus I want a winch on it)

Especially because Smittybilt has a $100 discount right now, plus a lot of places have free shipping for Christmas, now would be a good time for the Jeep Fairy to visit Dianna and myself.

I was aaaaalmost ready to pull the trigger, but one of the guys from the club let me know that he's got his stock bumpers that I could have for a song, and it has the fog-lights spots and everything.

Sooooooo.....
Do I replace with the practically free bumper?
or
Do I upgrade for $400?



EDIT: I need to learn not to browse. 4WD has $230 off the XRC8, plus free shipping. So add $300 to that total.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 11:07 AM   #77
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Just pulled the trigger on both the bumper and a winch. 4WD has some crazy deals right now, plus free shipping, so that sealed the deal.

I should also probably note that this would have been an easy choice to do the cheap replacement, as the stock one will fit my needs just as well as the upgrade for at least the next year or so. Only problem is that I think the stock bumper is kind of ugly and I've been looking for something to put on the JK that screams "Really, this is not just a soccer-mom vehicle".

Hell, even my wife admitted that she's always afraid people are assuming that's what she is, ha ha.
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Unread 12-15-2011, 06:42 PM   #78
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Oh, forgot to post this a couple weeks ago!

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Tree was so fat it barely fit through the shaker, ha ha


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My wife thought I was over estimating our living room, ha ha. But I was right and it looks great!


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Unread 12-15-2011, 10:00 PM   #79
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Congrats on the bumper and winch! You've now joined the winching ranks of Mark and I when we do NSJ runs I smell an install party!
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Cleaning this thing up is similar to a slightly abused pornstar throwing on a bunch of makeup to try to hide her eternal scars, but I think she doesn't look too bad
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Unread 12-24-2011, 11:57 AM   #80
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The Jeep Fairy visited us early for Christmas!

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Pretty straightforward install.
6 studs with nuts and 2 bolts into threaded holes to attach to the frame and another 3 bolts with holes drilled through the cross member (finally invested in a 1/2" metal bit)

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Taking off the old bumper was a piece of cake, despite what JKrs would have you believe, even if you have to drill out 1 or 2 plastic drywall-screw type things.

No rust is a beautiful thing.

I popped out the dent in the old plastic, but looking at the metal skeleton, Dianna got hit harder than I thought, so I'm glad we replaced it.

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Next up: turning the old bumper into a workshop shelf! More on that later....

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Unread 12-24-2011, 01:10 PM   #81
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My wife just complained that I only put frumpy pictures of her on this blog, so I am appeasing her by adding this:


My girl's a hottie, yo.
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Unread 12-26-2011, 10:42 AM   #82
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Bumper looks great!


...P.S. exciting Jeep information may be coming to this thread soon!!!
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Unread 12-26-2011, 10:24 PM   #83
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Everything looks good Geoff! Hope you had a Merry Christmas!
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Unread 12-27-2011, 02:44 PM   #84
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...P.S. exciting Jeep information may be coming to this thread soon!!!
As Ryan hinted at, here's the exciting news!



Late Sunday night Ryan sent me an email pointing me to this Craigslist ad!

"Selling a Ford 8.8 rear axle setup. Has a Riddler Heavy Duty differential cover, 4.88 gears, and an Aussie locker. Currently set up for leaf springs and will drop directly into a YJ.
Also selling a Dana 30 front axle setup, HP, with Posi Locker and 4.88 gears. Also set up for leaf springs and will drop directly into a YJ.

The rear axle is ready to use, and the Dana 30 could use a knuckle.
"

They were evidently off a YJ on 36 or 37s some time in the past and when they upgraded to 60s they took them off of their rig, still covered in mud, and sold them to the TJ kid I bought them from, where they sat in a back yard in a tarp for the last 5 months or so.

They're not really ready to drop right in, neccesarily. I need to replace a couple seals and possibly replace a ball-joint or two, along with obviously the fluids and a lube job. (Not sure about the knuckle. They seem fine, but I need to investigate further) Additionally I need to source the proper e-brake cables, u-joints, u-bolts, u-bolt plates, axle shims? (depending on what angle the previous guy welded them on), etc.

All the rust seems to be surface only, so I'll make sure to wirebrush and re-coat the axles. Even the brake lines look perfect.

I still need to do some more investigating, as I have no idea what year either axle came out of or what set-up the previous guy was running. My '95 has upgraded u-joints on the D30, so I need to verify what the new axle has. There's no tags on the axles, so I'll have to do some major digging.

My understanding is that the 8.8 came with a pinion flange, but mine has a traditional yoke, so it looks like everything, once cleaned up, should already be done and set to bolt in, but we'll see.
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Unread 12-27-2011, 02:55 PM   #85
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More pictures of the axles....

Riddler cover needs to be cleaned up


What I assume is the knuckle in question, but it looks like just a bad seal to me


All the brakes appear to be in good condition (with extended brake lines, I think) with the exception of missing the parking brake


U-bolt Yoke-style pinion?


I'm assuming it's u-bolt style, but I haven't had a chance to see if there's any threading. It doesn't look like it from the photos.


Any way to tell what size u-joint it takes if you don't know the year?


Oh, and while not pictured, there was a posi-lock setup (not posi-lockr, wtf?, like in the ad) also included!
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Unread 12-27-2011, 03:18 PM   #86
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Also, not sure how I feel about the Aussie locker in the rear.

The Jeep is my snow toy and I love knowing it inside and out in the snow. I pride myself on my ability to know *just* how to blip the gas to Tokyo drift my way around corners (much to my wife's annoyance). I really wish it was in the front, because then there'd be no issue at all.

The plan was always to put an OX locker in the rear when I put in the 8.8, but that was when it already needed a regear.

I'm trying to decide whether to
A) drive it with the Aussie for a bit, and if I don't like it in the snow, sell it.
or
B) As long as I've got the axle out from under, I might as well order the parts I eventually want and have it installed (I have a guy that was recommended for regears that has really good labor rates, so what's $200 or $300 bucks of labor when you're redoing your entire axle setup, you know?)

Pat, you've got an 8.8 with an open diff currently, right? Would you consider an Aussie in your rear axle?
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Unread 12-27-2011, 06:02 PM   #87
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Nice score on the axles. I've never personally ran a lunchbox in the rear axle but I too am curious about the handling characteristics. The only info I've ever read on it is people regurgitating what they've read. I say if it's there, bolt it up and run it and see how it handles. You can always swap it out and sell it later.
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Unread 12-27-2011, 06:29 PM   #88
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Danielle has an Aussie locker in her 8.25 on her Cherokee. Granted it's not an 8.8, but both the 8.25 and the 8.8 have a much stronger carrier than a D35, or even a D44. It runs just fine with the locker in the back. Honestly, the two things I don't like about it are:

-It's kind of noisy
-It clunks and clicks when making a turn.

I'd run with it and see how you like it. It's not that difficult to take out. If anything, run a very good synthetic fluid in the back, like Mobil 1 or better yet Royal Purple. After I put RP in the back on Danielle's Cherokee the noise went down considerably. Hope that helps.
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Danielle has an Aussie locker in her 8.25 on her Cherokee. Granted it's not an 8.8, but both the 8.25 and the 8.8 have a much stronger carrier than a D35, or even a D44. It runs just fine with the locker in the back. Honestly, the two things I don't like about it are:

-It's kind of noisy
-It clunks and clicks when making a turn.

I'd run with it and see how you like it. It's not that difficult to take out. If anything, run a very good synthetic fluid in the back, like Mobil 1 or better yet Royal Purple. After I put RP in the back on Danielle's Cherokee the noise went down considerably. Hope that helps.
I switched to 85w-140 in my D30 and it completely quieted the Spartan I have in there.
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I switched to 85w-140 in my D30 and it completely quieted the Spartan I have in there.
That's pretty close to what is in the back of Danielle's Jeep. She's running 75W-140, and it did help. As long as the weight is heavy (140) with any auto locker it'll run quieter.
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