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Unread 04-12-2012, 10:29 AM   #196
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What did you use for the ball joint press? Rental from AutoZone or the Harbor Freight kit?

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Cleaning this thing up is similar to a slightly abused pornstar throwing on a bunch of makeup to try to hide her eternal scars, but I think she doesn't look too bad
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Unread 04-12-2012, 10:52 AM   #197
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What did you use for the ball joint press? Rental from AutoZone or the Harbor Freight kit?
I rented the one from Advanced, as recommended by Clayton. It's got a bunch of different attachments that give you flexibility in how you press them on and off. Worked awesome.

A clean, newly painted axle definitely helped the process, and it just slid over and pushed out the paint. I didn't even need the breaker bar for 2 of them.
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Unread 04-13-2012, 07:00 AM   #198
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I rented the one from Advanced, as recommended by Clayton. It's got a bunch of different attachments that give you flexibility in how you press them on and off. Worked awesome.

A clean, newly painted axle definitely helped the process, and it just slid over and pushed out the paint. I didn't even need the breaker bar for 2 of them.
Good! I'm glad everything went smoothly. When I first did mine they all needed a breaker bar to come off. Even my impact gun couldn't do it.

Although I just did them on Danielle's Jeep, and it only took me an hour to do one side. It's amazing how much faster you go when you know what you're doing.
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Unread 04-13-2012, 09:20 PM   #199
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All pretty for tomorrow's swap!

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For those local, send me a text at 585.750.7240 if you're around and would like to help out!
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Unread 04-14-2012, 04:42 PM   #200
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Tons of photos today, for Geoff's narration later tonight.

































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Unread 04-15-2012, 07:11 AM   #201
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Looks like fun! If Geoff still needs help by Monday (hopefully he'll be done by then), I'll be coming over to finish it up.
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Unread 04-17-2012, 01:09 PM   #202
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Tons of photos today, for Geoff's narration later tonight.

Things went decently smoothly yesterday!

Got it up on jackstands without the stupidly dangerous hi-lift situation we ran into last time, ha ha.


The hub bolts were ridiculously tight and required a 3 foot breaker bar to make get them started and then a pipe over the ratchet to continue, but we got them all out.



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Wayne places the socket extension for the popping-the-hub trick.



Our first major snag: 3 of the 4 bolts on the CAD shear off with the slightest bit of effort. Luckily, the cover isn't threaded and I had the bolts from the donor axle. So we just pried off the cover and used a vice-grip to remove the bolts (and sliced my finger prettily on the gasket, which it turns out, is not just cork, but cork on top of sharp metal). I just RTV'd it back on, not with a gasket, so we'll see how well it holds.



Banged on the knuckle for a bit, but it needed a bit of help before it popped out.



Once stripped and the donor parts removed, we dropped the springs for removal. It was pretty well fused to the locating pins and leaf, but a bit of banging and prying got it loose.



Next we cleaned up the donor parts and gave them a coating of Rustoleum Rust Reformer.




We got the tie-rod removed with a couple quick taps of the hammer, but the steering stabilizer would not budge (I replaced it because the old one was leaking) even with heat, prying, and blunt force.

Luckily (or unluckily), tapping out the tie-rod broke the spot welds on both ends of the tie-rod, rendering the TREs kaput. So I ended up reluctantly purchasing a whole new tie-rod, which negated the whole steering-stabilizer issue.



Prepping the new axle with the donor knuckle and cleaned up original axle-shafts



Axle back in and buttoned up.



All back together with the new tie-rod.

So I'm "done". Left to do before the run this weekend (I'm still riding the motorcycle this week)
  • One of the grease zerk had messed up threads, so I need to re-tap the TRE and install
  • Finish filling diff (I ran out of fluid about halfway-through)
  • Adjust Steering Stops
  • Properly torque various bolts (Ryan doesn't believe in torque, ha ha)
  • And get a proper alignment

Thank you again *so* much Wayne & Ryan for all your help. Ryan, I have no idea how you went from my axle swap, to working for a day straight, then straight to helping Jarret. You're a beast. And as always, thank you for documenting with photos!
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Unread 04-17-2012, 01:10 PM   #203
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Also, this little bit of suck occured before a single bolt was turned:



That's my parking break popping through the brackets when I went to apply it. Crap.

Oh well. I'll figure that part out later.
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Unread 04-17-2012, 01:24 PM   #204
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Nice job building it as you need to. Keep up the good work. Is that an ACD in your avatar?
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Unread 04-17-2012, 01:28 PM   #205
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Nice job building it as you need to. Keep up the good work. Is that an ACD in your avatar?
Thanks, man. The pup is just a rottie/ridgeback mutt. Damn good dog. You'll probably meet her soon, as she's with me most of the time and comes along on runs.
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Nice. We have three ourselves. Two purebred ACDs and a rescue ACD/Jack Russell mix from Kentucky.
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So I haven't even gotten the Jeep back on the road yet (I've been on the motorcycle all week) and I'm already back to worrying about the highway vibrations again because I've got about 3 weekend trips to New York in a row planned next month that I'd really not prefer to do <50mph.

So I was just about to pull the trigger on ordering a new 1330 yoke for the 8.8


But then I started doing more research....

Turns out swapping out a yoke is *not* as straight-forward on the 8.8 or D35 as it is on the t-case or D30. The crush sleeve on the pinion determines backlash and that and pinion pre-load is determined by torque of the pinion nut.

There is a method that you can use to cheat this, where you you measure the preload before you pull the pinion nut, replace the yoke, then tighten the pinion nut until you have the same preload from the previous measurement +5inch/lbs of preload, but I'm not sure I want to spend the money and take the risk if it won't necessarily fix the issue.

EDIT: I just spent literally 4 hours searching online for existence of this yoke on *any* axle, and only found it on old Dana 44s and a couple other chimera. I'm convinced that that yoke is the source of my issues and I'm willing to take the risk.

F*ck. This.

Pulled the trigger. Ordered. Done.

I really shouldn't be spending additional money now, but the Jeep's most important role is a daily driver and a means of letting hike/backpack. In it's current state, it's not sufficient and that needs to change.
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I'm hoping that this fixes everything for you too. So to put this in, I'm guessing these are the steps you take:

1.) Use a torque wrench to find out the load on the pinion nut.
2.) Remove said yoke, and put on the other
3.) Re-torque to previous torque figures.

Is that it? I'm probably way off, but that's how I would do it.
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I'm hoping that this fixes everything for you too. So to put this in, I'm guessing these are the steps you take:

1.) Use a torque wrench to find out the load on the pinion nut.
2.) Remove said yoke, and put on the other
3.) Re-torque to previous torque figures.

Is that it? I'm probably way off, but that's how I would do it.
Pretty much, yeah! Only other thing is to add a few inch-pounds to the original, just to make sure it's snug. The new yoke should come in Wednesday, so it's getting added to the list of things to do this weekend (Dianna is working most of the weekend, so it's relatively guilt free).

Working on full post about the weekend....
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Unread 04-23-2012, 09:46 AM   #210
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WARNING: Long post ahead.

So kind of a mixed weekend, with some very disappointing spots and some very awesome spots.

The big disappointment was Saturday morning Dianna and I got up early and got the dogs ready and piled into the YJ to head off for the first wheeling of the season!

But because the YJ has been having vibrations above 55ish, we had to take back-roads, so we left a bit earlier. As we were going along, I realized I was now getting vibrations above 40mph, which I chocked up to being the new front locker spinning the axle.

Then I realized that...wait. I had been driving 60+mph on the highway with that same driveshaft with no vibes, so why was I getting vibes at 40? Maybe the gear change making it spin fast was doing it. Mental note to balance it when I get back.

But then I started hearing the locker clicking in the front at various speeds....while going straight. That's not supposed to happen. ****.

So I pull over to investigate, and it's a damn good thing I did because while I'm under there I notice this:


Sh*tsh*tsh*t. That is diff fluid not dripping, but *pouring* out of the passenger side. Looks like I'm not wheeling today.

So I start doing some reading while waiting for the tow truck and as it turns out, I'm an idiot.



(Side story about the tow truck: My insurance has roadside assistance, and the connected us to the tow place and we told them two adults and two dogs and they said "that's fine", but when the tow truck got there, they told us we couldn't take the dogs. WTF? Not in the tow truck OR the Jeep. WTF? I'm 40 minutes from home! WTF am I supposed to do with them?! And Dianna, who is normally a person who you do NOT want to be on the receiving side of the Italian/Chinese hybrid anger just sort of agreed to start walking and I'd pick her up later. WHAT?! But luckily when we went to take the dogs out of the Jeep, the guy saw the harnesses and seatbelt set-up I've got and these adorable faces:

and he agreed to let them stay buckled down in the Jeep if we assumed all liability. *phew* )

Anyhow, the new diff cover has a higher fill plug and I just filled it until it reached the plug, thinking it was a higher volume cover. Evidently you're not supposed to do that and overfilling can blow out axle seals. Even brand new ones in just-rebuild axles.

But wait...(about 10 lbs? )

The locker was clicking...does that mean that I burnt up bearings and something's sticking? Shouldn't be if it's still got enough fluid to be pouring out.

So I pulled the front driveshaft (which I've done a few times already this spring), but this time I had to really work to pop it off the t-case side and when I did, both caps popped off the u-joint (and one even stayed stuck in the yoke).

Located both caps and this is what I found:


Doesn't look spectacularly bad, but there's definitely almost no grease left on the one cap. I'm pretty sure it's the original u-joints on that shaft. I'm wondering if that might have been enough to make it bind and therefore make the locker click.



It doesn't look like it burnt it up badly or anything, so I'm not sure if that was, in fact, the issue. In any case, I've got the longer driveshaft from the donor AX-15 (the 6 cyl version is longer), and I'm now in the process of rebuilding it, probably using the axle-side yoke from my original. I'll have more pictures and progress of that later.

I didn't end up doing anything to it this weekend because I just needed to walk away for a bit and I wanted to actually spend some time with my wife instead of just being under the Jeep for (another) whole weekend.

I did, however, get a chance to drop the cover just to make sure that it was just the shaft and the diff and gears were ok.



Fluid looked good, everything moved smoothly and properly, so it looks like just a $10 mistake for the seal and 2 new u-joints for the front driveshaft that I was planning on rebuilding anyhow. There are worse things.

But at least it was not a completely lost weekend in terms of Jeeping. I got to "supervise" my brother-in-law as he did some work on his TJ's exhaust and then.....the JK got to use it's winch for real work for the first time!



The brother-in-law had a tree that he wanted to get rid of, so we hooked it up to the winch and out it came!

And because it's a conglomerate sort of tree, the rootball needed to be chopped into more manageable pieces, so I get to let out my aggression and frustration of the morning with an ax and a spade, which helped a *lot*. (The large amounts of drinking on Saturday night helped as well, ha ha )

And to finish off the weekend, Dianna and I got to attend the stellar Master's saxophone recital of one of our very own, SaxManClay. Just some really neat pieces and incredible breath and dissonance control!

And lastly, unfortunately the weekend did end on a "suck". Remember when I crawled under the Jeep by the side of the road to remove the front driveshaft?

....turns out it broke down on top of a patch of poison ivy. Awesome.

Whatever, overall I still had a good weekend. A day of hard labor and hanging out with my awesome in-laws and adorable niece can make up for a lot.
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