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Unread 02-23-2013, 07:27 AM   #61
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Are you planning on running an SOA setup? Because XJ C8.25's are SOA and I thought I read that you were using the stock perches on the 8.25...

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Unread 02-24-2013, 07:52 AM   #62
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Don't waste your money on 4.56s. Do 4.88s. With a 4 cylinder, you need to gear as low as your axles allow in order to have any power on the road. My 2.5 is on 35s with 4.88s and it is my only vehicle. I put a few thousand freeway miles on it each year. It goes 70-75 nicely in 5th gear on the freeway until I get into the mountains...then I start shifting.
Thats Great News and what i was looking for. I wish to use 5th gear again
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Unread 02-24-2013, 07:54 AM   #63
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Are you planning on running an SOA setup? Because XJ C8.25's are SOA and I thought I read that you were using the stock perches on the 8.25...

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You will have to expalin yourself when you say SOA (im gonna catch crap for this ) Im still kind of a newb. Also i think im going to us a Rough Stuff simple swap kit with new perches.
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Unread 02-24-2013, 08:06 AM   #64
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You will have to expalin yourself when you say SOA (im gonna catch crap for this ) Im still kind of a newb. Also i think im going to us a Rough Stuff simple swap kit with new perches.
SOA-Spring mounted on top of the axle.
SUA- Spring mounted under the axle.

I thought I read that you were planning on using the stock perches on the c8.25? I not then you will have to cut off the old stuff and weld on new perches SUA...

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Unread 02-24-2013, 08:07 AM   #65
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You will have to expalin yourself when you say SOA (im gonna catch crap for this ) Im still kind of a newb. Also i think im going to us a Rough Stuff simple swap kit with new perches.
SOA = Spring Over Axle
SUA = Spring Under Axle
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Unread 02-24-2013, 01:44 PM   #66
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Ok that clears things up I have not decided that just yet but I think Im going to keep it SOA. Any thoughts to which is better?
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Ok that clears things up I have not decided that just yet but I think Im going to keep it SOA. Any thoughts to which is better?
SOA gives a lot of lift and requires an anti wrap bar or you will get bad spring wrap. SUA gives less lift and is less prone to spring wrap.

SUA is the way to go on a TJ with 3-4" of lift.
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Any thoughts to which is better?
You might start a healthy debate with that question...

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Unread 02-24-2013, 01:51 PM   #69
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You might start a healthy debate with that question...

Well Ive got a lot of decisions to make on of the reasons i started this build thread I would like to know whats best. This may be a fairly slow build due to budget and my jeep is my DD right now, but i hope to have all the parts by the end of the summer and it completed going into fall.
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Well Ive got a lot of decisions to make on of the reasons i started this build thread I would like to know whats best. This may be a fairly slow build due to budget and my jeep is my DD right now, but i hope to have all the parts by the end of the summer and it completed going into fall.
There's no universal "best" in any aspect of this - or any other - pursuit; there's only the measure of how well you reach your intended goals. My advice is to do all the research you can stand, and then make the most educated guesses that you can make; some will be correct and others will be incorrect, so be ready for that. You're not going to get a blueprint for a perfect build because no such thing exists; keep this in mind.

With your specific variables in mind, I'd think that spring-under configuration might work a bit better; it's simpler, requires fewer parts, and can be made to work adequately well without automatically giving you excess lift.
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SOA gives a lot of lift and requires an anti wrap bar or you will get bad spring wrap. SUA gives less lift and is less prone to spring wrap.

SUA is the way to go on a TJ with 3-4" of lift.
The axle wrap is a little concern of mine and i only want three inches in the back to make it level. im trying to stay out of the four inch range.

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There's no universal "best" in any aspect of this - or any other - pursuit; there's only the measure of how well you reach your intended goals. My advice is to do all the research you can stand, and then make the most educated guesses that you can make; some will be correct and others will be incorrect, so be ready for that. You're not going to get a blueprint for a perfect build because no such thing exists; keep this in mind.

With your specific variables in mind, I'd think that spring-under configuration might work a bit better; it's simpler, requires fewer parts, and can be made to work adequately well without automatically giving you excess lift.
Ok, Now will the swap kits mainly the perches be different?
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The axle wrap is a little concern of mine and i only want three inches in the back to make it level. im trying to stay out of the four inch range.

Ok, Now will the swap kits mainly the perches be different?
SOA is out of the question if you only want a 3" lift.
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SOA is out of the question if you only want a 3" lift.
Ok so i will shoot for a SUA seems like this is the better alternative.
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Ok so i will shoot for a SUA seems like this is the better alternative.
I would do more research... and when I say that I don't want to denigrate anyone's input; I just advocate well-thought-out decisions. Don't rush to decide just because a few of us have ventured an opinion.
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The axle wrap is a little concern of mine and i only want three inches in the back to make it level. im trying to stay out of the four inch range.

Ok, Now will the swap kits mainly the perches be different?
Axle wrap will happen no matter what you do especially with the longer leaf springs

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