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Unread 02-20-2013, 09:58 PM   #1
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My LCOG TJ On Leafs

I guess its time for me to start a Build Thread considering Im half way through the build now. This is my first TJ and my first Jeep in general, I have learned a lot with this Jeep and I hope my mistakes can help some one save some time.

I plan to end up with a functional, capable, and safer rig that is cost friendly. My goal is to have the wheel base at the magic 100 inches, consisting of six in the rear and one in the front on three inches and 35s or eventually 37s.

My Jeep started bone stock 2.5l 4cyl 5 spd, LP D30 and D35 with 4.10 gears. It didnt sit 6 months and I added a 3 inch RCD lift and 31 Cooper AT3s on MT blacks.

I ran it a little while like that and wheeled some but didnt get into it too heavy. I showed it off at the Jeep Jam we have here local in Harrisonburg and was impressed how well it went. For a while i thought it was a big Jeep, but boy was i mistaken.

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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:08 PM   #2
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So on i went, I met up with a few buddies of mine that had XJs and TJs and knew then ends and outs of the life. I got talked into an Advanced Adapters SYE and a Tom Woods drive shaft along with a UCF tummy tuck to get rid of that awful stock belly pan and Slap on some 33 10.50s BFG ATs. I also added some JCR Crusader Sliders i got at their Black Friday Sale. I wheeled it a few times Open Open and was very impressed. I had to Fight my way through some of the Trails and Crozet and i wasn't too scared up and i was hooked to the addiction.
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:16 PM   #3
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As of today i have just installed a lock rite locker and a Novak cable shifter. Both work exceptionally well. I am Working on a College kids Budget as most of us are so my progression is slow. I just picked up axles for the stretch yesterday and i wound up going with a XJ C8.25 and a HP D30. Both are geared 3.55. I will post pictures shortly. I am going to stretch my jeep and put it on Reversed XJ leafs in the rear with the BTF TJ stretch kit. I figured since there are a limited number of TJs on leafs i would like to put my build up to help some one else.
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:19 PM   #4
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Why are you wasting the time putting in a 8.25?
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:21 PM   #5
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why leaf springs i have wheeled both and even a well set up leaf sprung rig isn't near as good as a half way decent link suspension. and links aren't hard to set up. i think you will be unhappy if you continue on this path

as for the 8.25, throw it away and get yourself an 8.8 they come with 3.55 gears as well. much stronger and unlimited aftermarket support. the 8.25 has little to no aftermarket for it.

and if you plan on running 37s 3.55 gears will make you want to light yourself on fire, just sayin...

this is all my opinion take it for what its worth. leaf springs arent as easy as they seem if you want to get them to work well
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1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
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my on board alternator/welder write up
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my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
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RC vs BDS
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:22 PM   #6
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Why are you wasting the time putting in a 8.25?
damn you beat me to it
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1994 yj stretched, locked and loaded - 6.0l vortec lq4, 4l60e, np231, Dana 44s 37" interco trxus m/t, 3.5" bds front leafs, double triangulated 4 link rear on xj front coils.
1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
2003 tj - 4in skyjacker, 33" mickey thompsons
my on board alternator/welder write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/alternator-welder-write-up-1301614/[/url]
my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/tj-uppers-yj-half-doors-hard-top-installation-1417686/[/url]
RC vs BDS
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/rough-country-vs-bds-1461555/[/url]
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:32 PM   #7
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As for my Gears Ill Be running 4.88s there is no way my little 130 hp 2.5l will be pushing 37s around with 3.55. Ill be on 35s for a while as far as the axles go Im not concerned with strength its the good 29 spline. One of my close friends wheels an 8.25 Lincoln locked and bashes on and jumps the jeep. The reason Im going to run an 8.25 is because I feel it is an aqueduct axle. I got both the HP30 and 8.25 for $100. the other reason is its ready for leafs now. Leafs are predictable and stable. It works and I know it will flex well. It also works for me.
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:34 PM   #8
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As for my Gears Ill Be running 4.88s there is no way my little 130 hp 2.5l will be pushing 37s around with 3.55. Ill be on 35s for a while as far as the axles go Im not concerned with strength its the good 29 spline. One of my close friends wheels an 8.25 Lincoln locked and bashes on and jumps the jeep. The reason Im going to run an 8.25 is because I feel it is an aqueduct axle. I got both the HP30 and 8.25 for $100. the other reason is its ready for leafs now. Leafs are predictable and stable. It works and I know it will flex well. It also works for me.
The axle transfers water places?





Just bustin your chops. I think you meant adequate
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:34 PM   #9
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As for my Gears Ill Be running 4.88s there is no way my little 130 hp 2.5l will be pushing 37s around with 3.55. Ill be on 35s for a while as far as the axles go Im not concerned with strength its the good 29 spline. One of my close friends wheels an 8.25 Lincoln locked and bashes on and jumps the jeep. The reason Im going to run an 8.25 is because I feel it is an aqueduct axle. I got both the HP30 and 8.25 for $100. the other reason is its ready for leafs now. Leafs are predictable and stable. It works and I know it will flex well. It also works for me.
leafs are actually terribly unpredictable compared to links. links will act the exact same way due to their geometry every time. leaf springs will sometimes flex out to the side, sometimes wrap, sometimes hop. honestly you are making a HUGE downgrade i can assure you
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1994 yj stretched, locked and loaded - 6.0l vortec lq4, 4l60e, np231, Dana 44s 37" interco trxus m/t, 3.5" bds front leafs, double triangulated 4 link rear on xj front coils.
1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
2003 tj - 4in skyjacker, 33" mickey thompsons
my on board alternator/welder write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/alternator-welder-write-up-1301614/[/url]
my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/tj-uppers-yj-half-doors-hard-top-installation-1417686/[/url]
RC vs BDS
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/rough-country-vs-bds-1461555/[/url]
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:36 PM   #10
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That was an error sorry. Adequate was what I wanted.
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leafs are actually terribly unpredictable compared to links. links will act the exact same way due to their geometry every time. leaf springs will sometimes flex out to the side, sometimes wrap, sometimes hop. honestly you are making a HUGE downgrade i can assure you
Ill be the judge, They are not bad, and look at some of these jeeps like Kyles Kurb Hopper and the Little Green Bean. Read through these. They work well.
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Unread 02-20-2013, 10:48 PM   #12
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i just dont see the point of making it ride worse, making your available articulation less, and going from relatively tucked up arms with not crazy mounts hanging down to giant rock catcher leaf springs. my yj was on leaf springs for awhile and it was set up well, i still hated it compared to a good link setup. what complaints do you have with the current suspension that you need to take such a drastic step back?
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1994 yj stretched, locked and loaded - 6.0l vortec lq4, 4l60e, np231, Dana 44s 37" interco trxus m/t, 3.5" bds front leafs, double triangulated 4 link rear on xj front coils.
1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
2003 tj - 4in skyjacker, 33" mickey thompsons
my on board alternator/welder write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/alternator-welder-write-up-1301614/[/url]
my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/tj-uppers-yj-half-doors-hard-top-installation-1417686/[/url]
RC vs BDS
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/rough-country-vs-bds-1461555/[/url]
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Unread 02-21-2013, 05:24 AM   #13
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Why are you wasting the time putting in a 8.25?
Why would someone waste time with a Dana 44 or a S35? Oh wait, piles of people do it here. The C8.25 is just as strong as a 44, there are piles of them in the junk yard, and they are cheap to get. I have one in my XJ, welded, in 35s, and rip on it in big, pointy rocks. I've broke a 30 shaft, but never an 8.25 shaft. He needs to just make sure he gets a 29 spline one.
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Why would someone waste time with a Dana 44 or a S35? Oh wait, piles of people do it here. The C8.25 is just as strong as a 44, there are piles of them in the junk yard, and they are cheap to get. I have one in my XJ, welded, in 35s, and rip on it in big, pointy rocks. I've broke a 30 shaft, but never an 8.25 shaft. He needs to just make sure he gets a 29 spline one.
Most agree its between a 35 and 44 in terms of strength. I think the op was liking it bc the xj spring perches will already be on there but if it were me I would've been lookin out for an xj 44 instead
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Unread 02-21-2013, 07:05 AM   #15
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Or get the 8.8 the perches are close enough that you can squeeze the springs in like 1/4 an inch and they work. Or link it instead of ruining a tj because you wanna do leafs because you think it's so much easier

Probably sent from under my broken heep
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1994 yj stretched, locked and loaded - 6.0l vortec lq4, 4l60e, np231, Dana 44s 37" interco trxus m/t, 3.5" bds front leafs, double triangulated 4 link rear on xj front coils.
1997 ZJ limited - BONE stock
2003 tj - 4in skyjacker, 33" mickey thompsons
my on board alternator/welder write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/alternator-welder-write-up-1301614/[/url]
my tj 1/2 doors on a yj write up
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/tj-uppers-yj-half-doors-hard-top-installation-1417686/[/url]
RC vs BDS
[url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/rough-country-vs-bds-1461555/[/url]
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