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Unread 11-23-2011, 08:21 AM   #751
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Ordered the Tikmen hubs at 1 PM yesterday from New Jersey, they were delivered at 10 AM this morning. $7 FedEx shipping from StockWiseAuto.com - Couldn't be more impressed!!!!!





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Unread 11-23-2011, 09:59 AM   #752
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Very nice
Sucks that you need to do it but great to see you do it
Have you had the wheel bearings off before???
If not they can be a pain
Best trick I know is to put a small 3/8 drive extension between the axles and a joint ear and use the power steering to press te beating out if the knuckle
Works everytime
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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:47 PM   #753
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After talking with SaxMan and a few others about this whole shindig, I ended up buying the AlloyUSA outer seals for the HP30. Since I'll have the hubs off and the shafts out, I figure that now was as good a time as any to get them on there and to cut down on debris inside the shafts. I would have loved to get the red ones just to be all stylish and such, but the black ones were $10 cheaper, and due to the fact that I'm on a tight schedule to get this done I figured that ordering what they had for cheaper was fine. $54 with 2 day shipping from Amazon will put them in my hands on Monday, which means the only thing I'm still waiting on is in fact the U-Joints which are coming from Texas and will undoubtedly arrive towards the end of next week with my luck.


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Unread 11-25-2011, 05:21 AM   #754
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The black ones were cheaper for you? That's so weird, cause when I bought them the red ones were cheaper! Go figure.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 03:06 PM   #755
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The black ones were cheaper for you? That's so weird, cause when I bought them the red ones were cheaper! Go figure.
Supply and demand.
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Unread 11-26-2011, 10:03 PM   #756
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Alloy seals arrive Monday. I'll probably disassemble the hubs and get them installed with the new seals asap, and just wait with the shafts pulled for the new U-Joints to arrive.

Went and scouted a trail in NH for our next club run today, should be a good time (Dec 10 for anyone who's interested shoot me a PM!)

I miss driving the TJ, it hasn't moved from the end of the driveway in 5 days.
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Unread 11-29-2011, 08:31 PM   #757
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Axle progress.... I started this morning with the preparation for the new unit bearings and Alloy outer seals. Simple process, just removed the tires, rotors, calipers, and then the hubs. My new size 36mm impact socket did a great job at quickly freeing the shaft nut, and I was quickly making progress. Slid off the hubs without a problem (I had been applying PB Blaster every day for the last week) and then pulled out the shafts themselves.

At this point I figured that I might as well swap out the diff cover, because when I had removed the shafts there was diff fluid leaking down the tubing and I already knew that one of my inner axle seals was bad. So I went to pull the tie rod, and it was seized into the knuckle. TRE puller from AutoZone did nothing except destroy the dust boot (I have extras from Energy Suspensions - not a problem). BFH did nothing. So I removed the drag link from the passenger knuckle and went to work draining the differential into a bucket. Pulled the stock cover, and let the pumpkin drain for a good hour or two. Upon sending a picture to some friends, it was reported back that my differential didn't look like 2003x's HP30. CrawlingForward thought he google image matched it to a Detroit Tru-Trac. The jury is still out as to which kind of locker it might be.... point being, my axle had it and we (myself and the seller I got it from) didn't even know. If it is a Tru-Trac, the axle itself would be worth twice+ what I paid for it. Not a bad gig.

So then I went to removing the old inner seals. Piece of cake using Stu Olson's great suggestion of a big pipe inside the axle shaft. Knocked the old ones right out. The challenge then becomes installing the new ones. I must have tried for an hour or more to get ONE of them in. No luck. At that point it was pitch black and the rain was coming, so with a flashlight I bolted the carrier back in and put the SOLID cover on with 2 bolts. Plastic bag over the torn TRE bushing, and I will continue working on this when time allows (aka Friday, as I am working tomorrow and Thursday). Flight to California departs at 6p Saturday night so I've got to get this done!!!

Still waiting on the Spicer 5-760x U-Joints from eBay. Shipped from Texas yesterday.






















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Unread 11-29-2011, 08:56 PM   #758
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Im telling ya, when you first sent me that pic, I really thought you bought a locker. First pic is my HPD30 with no locker, 2nd pic is a HP Dana 30 center section that has a tru trac removed and it looks exactly like yours.
If I remember correct now, when we drove around my circle and you cut the wheel hard, wasn't the front wheels chirping? Meaning, that we should have known there was a locker in it?

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Unread 12-02-2011, 08:53 PM   #759
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Any info on your locker? Also - how hard was it to remove the carrier and re-install it?
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Unread 12-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #760
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Any info on your locker? Also - how hard was it to remove the carrier and re-install it?
Tons of work got done today.... I'll write a long post tomorrow. In the mean time, it's an Eaton Detroit TruTrac locker. And it's easy easy to remove and reinstall the carrier. The most important part is to make sure that the carrier brackets and bolts are re-installed in the EXACT position they were removed from. The 2 parts and 4 bolts are NOT interchangeable. Other than that it's cake to do. Mine just happened to weigh in around 30 pounds with the locker inside.



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Unread 12-03-2011, 12:59 AM   #761
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I have the same Detroit in my rear end. they are awesome on anything slick and i dont even notive it is in the jeep on the the street. My spartan Front locker front locker lets me know all the time that its there.

Dj and 2003x Me and some friends are probly going out wheeling this sunday if you want to tag along.

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Tons of work got done today.... I'll write a long post tomorrow. In the mean time, it's an Eaton Detroit TruTrac locker. And it's easy easy to remove and reinstall the carrier. The most important part is to make sure that the carrier brackets and bolts are re-installed in the EXACT position they were removed from. The 2 parts and 4 bolts are NOT interchangeable. Other than that it's cake to do. Mine just happened to weigh in around 30 pounds with the locker inside.



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That was a score getting a locker.
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Unread 12-03-2011, 07:46 AM   #763
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I have the same Detroit in my rear end. they are awesome on anything slick and i dont even notive it is in the jeep on the the street. My spartan Front locker front locker lets me know all the time that its there.

Dj and 2003x Me and some friends are probly going out wheeling this sunday if you want to tag along.

~Donny
I have to work. Do you notice the lockers in 2wd?
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I have the same Detroit in my rear end. they are awesome on anything slick and i dont even notive it is in the jeep on the the street. My spartan Front locker front locker lets me know all the time that its there.

Dj and 2003x Me and some friends are probly going out wheeling this sunday if you want to tag along.

~Donny

Donny- thanks for the info. I've been doing some reading on the Detroit and am excited to have it in the HP30. It's kind of funny that nobody knew it was in there. I'm just going to have to learn how to use it/engage it. As far as the wheeling, I would absolutely love to go! Problem is that I fly out to California tonight for a week. Really appreciate the invite though, and be sure to let me (and 2003) know the next time you go.

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Unread 12-03-2011, 08:32 AM   #765
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Here's the info from yesterday.

The Jeep was parked at the end of my driveway all week. The biggest delay in the whole thing was the U-Joints, which although they shipped "quickly" (left Huston on Monday arrived here on Thursday) was still a little delayed as I had ordered them on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Whatever, though! I got them and dropped them off Thursday night at Montrose Machine Shop in Wakefield to be pressed in. They were done at noon yesterday - Total cost to press 2, $30 even. Can't beat that.

So the Jeep itself needed a few things done to finish it up.
- Press both inner axle seals
- Install Alloy seals
- Install axle shafts
- Seal & fill the differential
- Install unit bearings
- Re-assemble brakes
First off, the seals. Let me be the first to say it is a complete PAIN IN THE *** to press inner axle seals. I've never been so angry towards a Jeep mod/service. That being said, I went by my mecanic friend's shop and borrowed some tools to make this a little easier. The tool was comprised of a threaded spindle with a nut on it, and a size 1 7/16" socket (3/4" drive!). The threaded spindle went through the end of the socket, until the nut hit the drive hole. The socket fits perfectly inside the seal of the D30, and the other end of the spindle goes up against 3 pieces of wood and a piece of steel (to keep the pressure on the seal and not cracking through the wood - as we did the first time!) You then simply crank down on the large nut, which presses the socket down the length of the spindle, forcing the seal into place. RTV and some grease on the seal, and it slid in relatively easy. Here's a picture of the pressing.




So then it came time for putting the differential back together. As I may have mentioned the other day, the tie rod end was seized in place. No amount of PB Blaster was going to free this, and it actually bent my TRE puller (not pickle fork) trying to get it out. The final resort was to torch the stupid thing, and so we did that. Until the knuckle was glowing red and pretty much on fire. At that point, a few whacks with a sledge hammer and the TRE fell out. Problem was that the heat melted the rod end, so I'll need to buy a replacement soon to fix that, as the drivers side wheel/knuckle is a little bit loose and can be wiggled.




So then came the AlloyUSA seals. However, I needed to use the Jeep last night and the RTV requires 24-hours to fully cure, meaning the Jeep couldn't be driven. So we decided to skip that step, and it will give me something to do when I get back from Cali and can install a new TRE.

Next came the axle shafts. These new U-Joints (Spicer Model 5-760x, upgraded from stock TJs, and designed for the Rubicon D44s) are smooth as anything. I really hope they make the ride even just a little bit better! So in go the axle shafts, and we gently eased them through the new inner seals, being careful not to damage them. The new hubs went on smoothly, and SaxMan couldn't believe how nice they looked. Pretty great for $130. 3 easy bolts and some anti-seize on both sides made that project go by quick, and the axle nuts were cotter pinned quickly.






So that was pretty much it, aside re-filling the diff with Valvoline fluid, and putting the brakes back on. We had a small problem with the passenger side caliper, but nothing that a new bolt from the hardware store didn't fix. Jeep drives fine (still needs the alignment I brought it in for that caused all this mess) and then the Alloy seals and a new TRE.

The important thing to note... Fahey wanted $675 to do this. It cost me $250 when all was said and done.
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