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Unread 12-04-2013, 11:06 PM   #4561
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Unread 12-04-2013, 11:09 PM   #4562
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Unread 12-05-2013, 10:34 AM   #4563
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Man I love the way that Jeep looks, making a new bumper?
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Unread 12-05-2013, 01:19 PM   #4564
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Unread 12-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #4565
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Unread 12-05-2013, 02:01 PM   #4566
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Jeep is looking great! I'm curious, do you have any bump steer? Your drag link looks steep from that angle. Does the ram assist help keep that to a minimum?
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Unread 12-05-2013, 02:31 PM   #4567
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Man I love the way that Jeep looks, making a new bumper?
You can say that I actually never even got around to finishing the bumper last winter. I went ahead and chopped the front tube off because I want to move it forward about 2" and rotate the steering box a bit to fix some issues with my intermediate shaft clearing the frame. Once all that's taken care of I'll get the winch mounted and finish out the front tube work.

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Jeep is looking great! I'm curious, do you have any bump steer? Your drag link looks steep from that angle. Does the ram assist help keep that to a minimum?
The steepness of the drag link has nothing to do with bump steer. As long as the drag link and track bar are identical lengths and perfectly parallel to one another there won't be any bump steer.

However, pay zero attention to my steering setup in the above pictures. I cut the steering box mount and rotated the steering box which misaligned my drag link and track bar. The Jeep is also sitting roughly 2" higher all around at the moment because I pulled everything from the interior, transmission, transfer case, fuel cell, seats, ect and the extra height is making the angles look much worse than they were.

Moving the steering box around means I will most likely be re-doing the entire draglink and track bar setup but here are some pictures of how it was setup. There was never bump steer because of identical length track bar and drag link and mounted at exactly the same angle.



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Unread 12-05-2013, 02:40 PM   #4568
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I agree that having equal length and angle trac bar and drag links helps minimize issues but it will still push the entire axle to the passenger side during compression. Now that I think about it more, I guess it doesn't matter. If it were perfectly flat, the axle would move to the driver side during compression or droop.
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Unread 12-05-2013, 03:25 PM   #4569
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I agree that having equal length and angle trac bar and drag links helps minimize issues but it will still push the entire axle to the passenger side during compression. Now that I think about it more, I guess it doesn't matter. If it were perfectly flat, the axle would move to the driver side during compression or droop.
As long as the track bar pushes the entire axle the same as the drag link would push the knuckle throughout the suspension travel (same length and parallel), bump steer is non existent. If the angles are really steep and the axle shifts side to side a lot it can cause handling issues but it wouldn't be bump steer technically. I haven't really noticed any strange handling with my setup like it is but while I'm moving things anyway I may try to get mine a little bit flatter at ride height if I can. With 7.5-8" of up travel it's tough to get things flat at ride height and still clear each other at full bump. At full bump right now my drag link and track bar angle very slightly the other direction believe it or not.
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Unread 12-05-2013, 03:31 PM   #4570
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Unread 12-05-2013, 05:01 PM   #4571
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What did you put on the bottom edge of the hood? I just cut mine at that line last week and I've already cut myself twice on it.
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Unread 12-05-2013, 05:35 PM   #4572
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What did you put on the bottom edge of the hood? I just cut mine at that line last week and I've already cut myself twice on it.
Automotive door edge trim. You should be able to find it at most auto parts store chains. I picked mine up at a pep boys or advance auto out in Colorado last year.
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Unread 12-05-2013, 06:29 PM   #4573
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I agree that having equal length and angle trac bar and drag links helps minimize issues but it will still push the entire axle to the passenger side during compression. Now that I think about it more, I guess it doesn't matter. If it were perfectly flat, the axle would move to the driver side during compression or droop.
"Bump steer" is a result of differing arcs between the track bar and drag link. As long as the links travel in the same arcs, there will be no perceived bump steer, regardless of the operating angles of said links.
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Unread 12-05-2013, 07:46 PM   #4574
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Hmm, that sounds interesting. I don't know if I can swing a huge western journey again next year but I will say that I've been eyeing the Dirt Riot race at Crandon, WI August 2-3, 2014. Looks like it might be a pretty cool event and my girlfriend has family about an hour from the race in Wisconsin. Not sure if that works out with the late August trip you are talking about but maybe we could figure something out where I do a little racing and then some wheeling in the nearby states before heading back East.
From Wisconsin to South Dakota isn't that bad a stretch. I am not set on dates yet, since I haven't bid my vacation weeks yet. We can do some research on trails in the black hills. Can always try to hook up with some Colorado Jeepers on the way home to hit Carnage canyon and the trail near it. It's been quite some time since a big road trip. Have to research a bit, but looks like under 1300 miles and on the way back Colorado isn't to hard to hit up
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Unread 12-05-2013, 08:26 PM   #4575
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we figure something out where I do a little racing and then some wheeling in the nearby states before heading back East.

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