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Unread 03-17-2011, 06:41 AM   #391
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Love the thread. Love your Wagoneer. Quietly watching because I would love to restore/modernize one with a EFI engine and all the amenities of a modern SUV. Maybe one day. After the lottery.



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Unread 03-17-2011, 07:00 PM   #392
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Love the thread. Love your Wagoneer. Quietly watching because I would love to restore/modernize one with a EFI engine and all the amenities of a modern SUV. Maybe one day. After the lottery.

doesnt take the lottery, only takes about 15 grand to buy a mint 1991 Grand Wagoneer.

Leather heated/power seats, AC, good stereo system, overhead console, etc etc.

I updated my calculations on the amount I've poured into the Wagoneer the other day. I'm quickly approaching the point where I have put more into it than I paid for, hahah.
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Unread 03-19-2011, 11:28 AM   #393
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And so it begins....by removing 4 bolts at the drive shaft.
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Unread 03-19-2011, 01:21 PM   #394
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Marn,
Here's the photoshop of the pic I borrowed
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Unread 03-19-2011, 07:19 PM   #395
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That's pretty slick! I actually like it alot more than I thought I would.
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Unread 03-20-2011, 12:43 AM   #396
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progress!

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Unread 03-20-2011, 08:34 PM   #397
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Unread 03-20-2011, 10:09 PM   #398
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Unread 03-20-2011, 11:39 PM   #399
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Unread 03-20-2011, 11:39 PM   #400
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Having a Full Size Jeep is likehaving a hot wife. When you take her out in public it turns heads, they can insight jealousy, you could look at them all day, they require a lot of attention, cost a lot to get them to do what you want them to do, but when they're not happy you'll be cussing, throwing things, and constantly weighing how much you'll lose if you divorce her.

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Unread 03-20-2011, 11:39 PM   #401
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Unread 03-20-2011, 11:44 PM   #402
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Phew!!!!

This was a hell of a weekend, I can now say, that THIS is by far the MOST work I have ever done to a vehicle in my life.

Summary:
Pulled transmission and transfer case.
Separated trans and transfer case.
Cleaned up the transfer case a lil.
Removed EVERYTHING from the motor and prepped it 100% for removal (radiator, all accessories, exhaust manifolds are all off)
Installed the new steering gear box.

Started out be getting under and pulling off all the cables and linkages for the tranny/transfer case. Not much soing on down there. Pulled the exhaust and drive shafts as well.

Then I pulled the transmission cross member, while supporting the transfer case.


crossmember has what looks like 38 years of oil and dirt all caked onto it. Gross. needs a good cleaning. That electric fuel pump will be coming off as well, it was used to prime the mechanical pump from the auxiliary tank I figure.


Finally got the tranny out.



lots of stuff had to come out first though.



Front pump seal is leaky, which is why inside the bell housing was wet all the time (the ATF on the ground is not from the front pump, I'm just saying)


Woke up on sunday and decided to work some more. Got the tranny and t-case separated.


These things are freakin gross. Tranny will be hot tanked, but i started to clean up the t-case a little. Just sprayed it with degreaser and scraped it and hosed it off. no major improvement, but atleast it isnt greasy and slippery now.



Stuff was nasty under there. This is the transmission mount bracket.


think it was time for a new transmission mount?


My transmission cooler has seen better days, so I figure I'll either replace it or eliminate it.


One trick to an engine removal....it gets way easier with the hood out of the way!


built in hood storage
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Unread 03-20-2011, 11:45 PM   #403
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removed the Power steering pump and bracket, and set it to the side on the fender. Also the radiator is removed in this pic.


found a wasp nest on the engine....


And wellllll, here's a pleasant surprise! Turns out my engine has a 4barrel intake manifold! I'm not sure if its factory, but I know 4bbls were an option in the mid to late 70's, so it could be. either way, bonus!Sadly, this means my carb wont mate with the new motor, so I have a few options here.


got the AC bracket off and set aside with the compressor.



Since i did so much disassembly, I figured i would do something constructive as well. Replaced the steering gear box. That thing was a bear. It bolts to a bracket that bolts to the frame. There is 1 bolt you cannot access on the bracket....so you have to unbolt the whole thing from the frame, then remove the gear box from the bracket. Pain in the butt to get the splines lined up on the steering column again too! So, anyway, i got it in and its all bolted down, just doesnt have the hoses connected yet. that'll come later.


then, finally, removed the exhaust manifolds. Figured the smaller/lighter the engine, the easier it will be to pull.



Yeah, doesnt look like too much work when written out, but it took me two days. So, its ready to be pulled!

I found some interesting stuff.

This massive crack on my bellhousing that has been welded. Weird. Could have been from a bad tranny mount at some point I'm told.




Also, discovered my intake manifold is actually a 4barrel, not running an adapter like I thought. This means my carb wont bolt onto the new engine, so I may just swap the intakes. Not sure yet, but leaning that direction.

At least I have some motivation and constant reminders to get this crap finished. This is what I see when I walk into the garage to get in my car. At least its staring me in the face every day!!!
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Unread 03-20-2011, 11:47 PM   #404
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love this thread. love the wagons....so I've been watching the thread for the past few months (as a non-member...lol). finally chiming in.

Just thought I'd say I really like that photochop gixxerphil did...love the classic woody wagon look currently, but the black photochop shot looks bad azz.
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Unread 03-21-2011, 07:57 AM   #405
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Great work, really enjoying the build (re-build?). Before the replacement engine goes in I can see you spending at least one weekend cleaning and detailing that engine bay.
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