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post #901 of 1740 Old 01-09-2012, 10:56 AM
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Oh did you sell your .45 airlite yet?

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post #902 of 1740 Old 01-09-2012, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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I hope I get to play with this next time I'm back in town
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Oh did you sell your .45 airlite yet?
No. some fool offered me $675, i said 700, he said no, 675.

then he offered me 620?

then he offered 620 like 5 more times.

then he said how about more than 620, less than 700, then before i could even respond with a "no" he offered 620 again. I told him to stop PMing me.

I'd rather keep it than sell it for too cheap, its not like i'm in dire need of the cash ya know? Just wanted to lessen the blow of the new 1911.

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post #903 of 1740 Old 01-09-2012, 07:35 PM
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Yeah, people shouldn't try to buy guns when they are tweeked out on Meth. They just can't keep track of the negotiations. It makes the bargaining no fun at all.
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Holy smokes Marn. I've spent the last couple days reading through all 900+ posts of this thread, and I am immensely impressed. Your Wagoneer is incredible, and you've inspired me to restore and build my 1973 that's been sitting in storage for a month now.

Although my project probably won't get off the ground until I graduate from college in 2.5 more years, I'm already planning out a full frame-off restoration with 6" of lift, rebuilt engine, 33" Mud-Terrains, and a fully rewired and refurbished rig. I'll be following this thread for as long as it lasts, as every post is getting me more and more excited to get working on mine!!

Keep up the great work!
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post #905 of 1740 Old 01-10-2012, 09:41 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the compliments, and I'm glad its providing some motivation. I tend to lose sight of it myself when I realize how much cahs i have POURED into this POS truck.

I've arrived at an impasse however. My brakes suck.

I have some options, but have no idea which direction to go:

1. Easiest and clean....drop 650 bucks and do a front disc conversion on my Dana30. However, this is polishing a turd.

2. Hydroboost. Cheapest option. In my opinion, it's fairly ghetto to jerry rig a hydroboost system from a different vehicle to run off of my power steering pump, but this will provide great results apparently. I feel like it adds another failure point though. However, I'm not sure that it will work on my 4-drum system. Cost would be something like $300 bucks.

3. Axle swap. I could get a set of matching axles from whatever (j-truck, cherokee, etc up to the late 70's), that has a front D44 with discs, and have the perches re-welded if they were wide track axles. Or i can try to find one single front D44 with 5 lugs that matches my gear ratio and has discs....

4. Junk yard or new parts conversion to discs from a bunch of old chevy parts. Involves grinding down the knuckles and stuff though, and a TON of part hunting.

Sigh, I dont know which way to go.

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post #906 of 1740 Old 01-10-2012, 11:14 PM
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This should be a no brainer! Find a pair of 3/4 or 1 ton axles rebuild the brakes and swap them in. You're leaf sprung up front right? Shorten your driveshafts and be done! Easy as pie! Haha
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post #907 of 1740 Old 01-10-2012, 11:50 PM Thread Starter
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ha, you wanna come do all the work, and find all the parts?

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post #908 of 1740 Old 01-11-2012, 08:24 AM
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On the IFSJA forum, they suggest trying different pads with different results. I have recently posted pictures of a local 80 Wagoneer for sale dirt cheap in my area, discs on the front. The diff ratio is 3:31. I am told the swap between these two years, 73 and 80 is a little more complicated. Something about a passenger side drop and I don't really understand what that means. A big boat anchor with a log chain would be inexpensive. If your floor boards are like mine, you could just put a trap door on the passenger side, put the anchor in the seat, and drop it out when you need that extra stopping power.
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Yea that passenger drops a *****
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post #910 of 1740 Old 01-11-2012, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
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On the IFSJA forum, they suggest trying different pads with different results. I have recently posted pictures of a local 80 Wagoneer for sale dirt cheap in my area, discs on the front. The diff ratio is 3:31. I am told the swap between these two years, 73 and 80 is a little more complicated. Something about a passenger side drop and I don't really understand what that means. A big boat anchor with a log chain would be inexpensive. If your floor boards are like mine, you could just put a trap door on the passenger side, put the anchor in the seat, and drop it out when you need that extra stopping power.
Passenger drop means that the differential/driveshaft/output side of the transfer case are on the passenger side of the truck.

Our 73's are passenger drop. The front diff is on the passenger side, and so is the rear dif. This comes into play with how much of a swap you want to do.

You need passenger drop axles if you want them to bolt in (includes moving the spring perches). If you get a driver drop (driver side differential) front axle, you'll need to swap transfer cases to something that sends the drive shaft up under the drivers side. This also involves oil pan and exhaust clearance.

So, unless you wanna do a big ole drivetrain swap, you'll need to find an older wag with passenger side differentials.

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post #911 of 1740 Old 01-11-2012, 01:45 PM
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What Marn says... Also, 79 was the last year for passenger drop.

You read it. You can't unread it!

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Sorry Marn, guess the 80 won't fix your problem. you didn't like my anchor idea?
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haha, i dont have enough room for an anchor and chain when i've got 7 people in the wag.

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post #914 of 1740 Old 01-11-2012, 11:50 PM
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tie a rope to 6 of their ankles, and kick the first one out the passenger door?

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Is ur d30 closed knuckle?

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tie a rope to 6 of their ankles, and kick the first one out the passenger door?
haha or get a drag racing parachute
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