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Unread 05-16-2012, 08:10 AM   #331
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One good thing about my work is we have top notch welders who have welded about any kind of material you can weld. I'll have them tack it or put a small bead on it. So the expertise is there. Plus I'll have to drill the knuckle through anyway.

My buddy used those inserts you have linked to and he didn't use any kind of epoxy or welding. He installed them with an R121 reamer. He reamed his CJ knuckles out and put those in there till there was a 1/64" lip sticking out the top. Then he stuck the TRE's in an torqued it down. The only problem I have with that is I don't have enough meat to put a taper down the length of the hole because it's already made for 1 tons for under the knuckle.
My hand was getting tired or reaming so I ended up leaving a lip like that and just torqued the crap out of it. My laziness made it stronger too

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Unread 05-16-2012, 08:25 AM   #332
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My hand was getting tired or reaming so I ended up leaving a lip like that and just torqued the crap out of it. My laziness made it stronger too
My buddy who did that is a sheetmetal worker and he said his hands hurt for a day or two. Plus he's a big guy so I imagine it's pretty tough.

It sounds like it would be easier to drill both knuckles through and tack the inserts in but more expensive. I'll probably go that route. I'm also thinking I should have waited to paint the knuckle.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Unread 05-16-2012, 08:50 AM   #333
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1. I can drill the knuckle out and buy a 1 ton TRE insert... I think. Then weld it in there.
2. I can drill straight through and buy some heim joints.
3. I just leave it with the tie rod under the knuckle.
I'd just slap it togther with the tie rod below the knuckle and see how it steers. Check to make sure there's clearances with the draglink/framerail at full stuff and that you get full steering. If everything works fine just drill it straight through and run heims or the welded inserts if your set on tre's. I had one of those tera knuckles in my toolbox for a longtime incase I went soa but ended up selling it. I'm curious how this turns out.
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Unread 05-16-2012, 09:02 AM   #334
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I'd just slap it togther with the tie rod below the knuckle and see how it steers. Check to make sure there's clearances with the draglink/framerail at full stuff and that you get full steering. If everything works fine just drill it straight through and run heims or the welded inserts if your set on tre's. I had one of those tera knuckles in my toolbox for a longtime incase I went soa but ended up selling it. I'm curious how this turns out.
Well I just pulled the trigger and bought (2) goferit inserts for 1 ton TRE's. I think it's my best option right now.

I had considered just slapping it on there and going but I still have to modify my driver's side knuckle either way. Plus I have a diff guard that nearly rubs the stock tie rod at it's current position. It would definitely hit with the 1.5" O.D. tie rod.

If I decided to go to heims I can always grind the top of the insert off the knuckle and knock it through.

I'm interested to see how this will go too. I hope it's not a bust because I'm SUA right now.
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Unread 05-16-2012, 10:09 AM   #335
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Well I just pulled the trigger and bought (2) goferit inserts for 1 ton TRE's. I think it's my best option right now.

I had considered just slapping it on there and going but I still have to modify my driver's side knuckle either way. Plus I have a diff guard that nearly rubs the stock tie rod at it's current position. It would definitely hit with the 1.5" O.D. tie rod.

If I decided to go to heims I can always grind the top of the insert off the knuckle and knock it through.

I'm interested to see how this will go too. I hope it's not a bust because I'm SUA right now.
You will be happy with the goferits. I'm running about 3" of lift with waggy springs and 1" shackles and I have plenty of clearance. Did you check and see if your draglink will come in contact with your frame rail? I never thought of that before with sua and the tera knuckle?
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Unread 05-16-2012, 11:21 AM   #336
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My hand was getting tired or reaming
Imma quote that...
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Unread 05-16-2012, 11:43 AM   #337
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You will be happy with the goferits. I'm running about 3" of lift with waggy springs and 1" shackles and I have plenty of clearance. Did you check and see if your draglink will come in contact with your frame rail? I never thought of that before with sua and the tera knuckle?
That's one thing I've been thinking about. Depending what kind of clearances I have I wouldn't be opposed to extending my bumpstops.

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Imma quote that...
Got to throw some lube on it. Makes it go faster.
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Unread 05-16-2012, 01:34 PM   #338
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And on a serious note.... for ferrous metals, go to the grocery store and get a jug of Murphy's Oil Soap, A thing of cod liver oil from the pharmacy, and about 1 gallon water. Mix it all together. This will give you a machine shop oil "milk" similar to what has been used for the last 200 years in machine shops to bore steam engine cylinders, canons, and make screws in lathes. It wasn't until the 1980's that they started inventing synthetic chlorinated-sulphurized stuff. For the hi-speed CNC machines.

For non-ferrous especially with light cuts at high speed, nothing beats plain ol kerosene.
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That's one thing I've been thinking about. Depending what kind of clearances I have I wouldn't be opposed to extending my bumpstops.
Frame clearance was one of the reasons I ditched the idea and just ran a stacked heim setup instead. There's alot that could be done before extending bumpstops. Probably just notch the frame or mount the draglink below the knuckle. You'll figure it all out during mockup
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Unread 05-16-2012, 09:45 PM   #340
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Frame clearance was one of the reasons I ditched the idea and just ran a stacked heim setup instead. There's alot that could be done before extending bumpstops. Probably just notch the frame or mount the draglink below the knuckle. You'll figure it all out during mockup
Yeah I went outside and just stared at it and kind of threw the knuckle up there. I'm pretty sure I'll need to put the drag link under the top arm, cut the sway bar mount on the frame off and possibly notch it.

This is one of those times when I wish I didn't live in an apartment complex. I'll figure it out though.
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I'll figure it out though.
I like that attitude.
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Many a times I've went out and laid under the jeep and wondered different things to do/ best way to attack a problem..... And a few times I've been caught napping under the jeep too......
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Many a times I've went out and laid under the jeep and wondered different things to do/ best way to attack a problem..... And a few times I've been caught napping under the jeep too......
I get some funny looks from my neighbors at the apartment. I'll just be sprawled out under the jeep looking at stuff. I do catch myself nodding from time to time.
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Unread 05-17-2012, 09:20 PM   #344
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I got my u-bolt plates done today. I started after work. Here's my work space.



Check out the difference between what I had on there (the Ford Explorer plates and u-bolts) and the new plates and u-bolts.



If anyone is into beer I had the last two of the Oak Barrel Stouts I got from Fredericksburg, VA while visiting friends. It's delicious.



Here's the plates on with the untrimmed u-bolts.




Here is them trimmed.



I also stopped by Lowe's and found an XJ next to me. Looked pretty good.



I'm hoping to do some work on the steering this weekend. I may need to order another insert to flip the drag link under the top arm.
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Unread 05-17-2012, 10:11 PM   #345
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I like it. I may do it if you don't share some story of it failing.
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