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Unread 08-29-2013, 06:30 PM   #31
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Auto Zone. Muffler clamps and I welded some flat plates on them. Used some heat shrink on the u bolt and some magnetic tape on the clamp side so it doesn't scar the roll bar.

If I had to do it over, I'd get bigger clamps that fit over the padding

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Unread 08-29-2013, 07:23 PM   #32
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Unread 08-30-2013, 04:57 PM   #33
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Track bars, or how I learned to stop pulling on the steering wheel

Everything is good now or so it seemed. After I did the initial lift with the budget boost back in 2009 I noticed a slight difference in how much tire was sticking out from the fender flares on each side. And it was exactly the opposite in the rear. In the front the driver's tire stuck out slightly more than the passenger's tire and vice-versa in the back. I wasnt sure if it was me and my imagination or if it was real.

Once I swapped the budget boost out for the 3.5" it became very obvious it was not illusion. Upon measuring the difference was 3/4" on each side. I also noticed the vehicle pulled slightly to the left. I was constantly having to keep pressure on the steering wheel to the right. Here is why; The track bar is a fixed length. In the diagram below you can see that as the springs push the frame up, the axle will actually be pulled towards the side opposite from where the track bar attaches.


So 3/4" in the front and 3/4" in the back makes for 1.5" that the track is off from front to rear. The Jeep's thrust angle is now off and it pulls to the left. It is trying to roll straight but can't.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 05:06 PM   #34
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I corrected this issue in the rear with my faithful standby...JKS! Their adjustable rear track bar was easy to install. And by lengthening the track bar I was able to re-center the axle beneath the frame.



I chose their rear track bar for simplicity. For the same reasons I chose their track bars. The fact that their bushings are factory bushings. I have over 79,000 miles on this Jeep now and have ZERO issues with the factory bushings. They wear, sure but I can stand to go +80,000 miles without having to change it. I never cared much for urethane (felt hard to me) and "certain" other joints seem to wear out frequently and require changing. And that is strictly due to observation of some of my buddies Jeeps who are running "certain" other joints. Besides if one of these rubber joints wears out I can run to the local auto parts store give them the factory number and they typically have it on the shelf. However finding a local store that carries "certain" other joints might be tricky. Now I still had to fix the front track bar.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 05:35 PM   #35
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Research, research, research some more. There are so many adjustable track bars. Most of them have those "certain" other joints, even JKS.

There really is only one, in my opinion, that has the "grit" to be installed on Littlebee. That track bar is my by Teraflex and here's why...
Aside from having factory bushings at both ends it also has a cool feature that most others don't. It adjusts just like the drag link does with a sleeve and two clamp bolts in the middle. This meant that I could really fine tune where the axle sits under the frame, and I like that.

Installation was simple, AND I did not have to install in funky brackets or drill out the tapered end of the frame mount. It was just pop out the old one and pop in the new. Rubicon Express recommends drilling out the axle bracket end by re-locating the mount 3/4" towards the driver's side. Funny thing is when I did that, the axle shifted 1 and a half inches towards the passenger side, which put me 3/4" too far! With the Teraflex bar you just loosen the clamp bolts and turn the sleeve, measure, turn again, measure and lock it down. Done!
*Update* The Jeep no longer pulls one way or the other. It also has regained all power lost when it was trying to track straight with the thrust angle off. I like to imagine my tires are wearing more slowly now and my rear wheel bearings are wearing slowly again too!

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Just installed that track bar on my rig to fix my DW. I was really pleased with it as well! And you're right, the adjustable sleeve was a nice feature.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 06:58 PM   #37
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So did it fix your DW?
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So did it fix your DW?
Yup it did!
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Unread 08-30-2013, 07:18 PM   #39
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Cool! Mine was cured by setting toe-in to 1/16" after the first lift. I have a buddy whose DW on his JK was caused by track bar and right front wheel bearing. It's funny all the things that can cause DW. Glad yours is resolved! After experiencing three separate times, I check e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g now routinely.
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Have you checked to see if that TB hits the diff at full bump?
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Unread 08-30-2013, 10:49 PM   #41
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Oh yeah, it's good. Seems to have no clearance issues
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Today I decided to get out and clean up some of the underwood wiring. I had run fog light wires, sub woofer wiring and wiring for the Rigid LED's on top of the existing harness.

So now it looks a little better...

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Unread 09-05-2013, 08:39 AM   #43
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Today, I'm upgrading my winch. After a year and a half, the XRC8 has performed flawlessly, however, I've used it a lot more than I had originally intended.


I found a smoking deal on Amazon and my wife, who had already decided to get me a new winch for Christmas, said go ahead and get it!
I have the best wife in the whole world!

Safety first...

It's 9 am...

They're not kidding, even the UPS guy was glad to see me with a dolly


I'm like a kid on Chrismas morning!

Packaging A+

Top of box contents...

And voila...
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Winch appears to be in great condition, no cracks. All the included parts look great too.
So I begin by routing the battery cables out of the engine compartment

Removing the forward sway bar retaining bolts...

The upper and lower bumper bolts and fog lights

And then the whole bumper and winch come off in a controlled fall...not on my toes...use two people, save your back
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Labor of Love- my son's Jeep build
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Unread 09-05-2013, 10:01 AM   #45
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Next is removing the old winch from the bumper...
First the mount bolts, two of which pass through the bumper *edit-My wife saw this pic and said, "Eww, it's filthy, you did clean it, right?" Yes dear*

Then the old roller fair lead comes off


Everything about the Warn winch is just bigger and better

It is 10:50 am


Installation should be the reverse of this, so I won't post any pics until its done. That way I can work quicker. I have to go to work at 1:45 so I'll have to work quicker. I'll snap pics of anything different and post them up if needed.
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Labor of Love- my son's Jeep build
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