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post #1501 of 3079 Old 04-08-2013, 09:08 AM
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any chance you have more pics or info on the suck down winch setup on the silver TJ that broke the steering?

Looks pretty slick.

I wish rocks like that were close to me.

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You go offroading more times than I get the mail . I'm extremely jealous.


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any chance you have more pics or info on the suck down winch setup on the silver TJ that broke the steering?

Looks pretty slick.

I wish rocks like that were close to me.
No pics, but it works pretty well, he hooks his winch line to a short piece of winch line that goes through the bumper then too a pulley that's mounted on a bracket of the engine that sits above the axle and then the piece of winch line goes straight down to the axle. This way it's easy to still use the winch when needed and he can keep the front from unloading at the touch of a button

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You go offroading more times than I get the mail . I'm extremely jealous.


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You know where to find me Jay, you should take yourself a 2 week vacation or so with a few fellow Jeepers and camp out. From this area you can drive to the hammers and back on the dirt and do a few other trails on the way.
The Cougar Buttes area has some nice fairly secluded camping spots and some of the rock formations are out of this world. On top of that most of the area is a dream come true for Jeeps on 33's and 35's.

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No pics, but it works pretty well, he hooks his winch line to a short piece of winch line that goes through the bumper then too a pulley that's mounted on a bracket of the engine that sits above the axle and then the piece of winch line goes straight down to the axle. This way it's easy to still use the winch when needed and he can keep the front from unloading at the touch of a button
What's your opinion on something like Stu's suckdown winch?

http://www.stu-offroad.com/suspension/sdw/sdw-1.htm

Seems like clearances would be tight, but I like the idea of not having to use the front winch for suckdown purposes.
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No pics, but it works pretty well, he hooks his winch line to a short piece of winch line that goes through the bumper then too a pulley that's mounted on a bracket of the engine that sits above the axle and then the piece of winch line goes straight down to the axle. This way it's easy to still use the winch when needed and he can keep the front from unloading at the touch of a button
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What's your opinion on something like Stu's suckdown winch?

http://www.stu-offroad.com/suspension/sdw/sdw-1.htm

Seems like clearances would be tight, but I like the idea of not having to use the front winch for suckdown purposes.
I copied that idea on my yellow Jeep, used a harbor freight atv winch. Does the trick for me.
I am sure you are familiar with the utility tower spot on Cleghorn
That flat face looks intimidating but my Lil Jeep crawled right up it with the front cinched down. For steep climbs you'll love a suck down winch, makes it feel a lot less intimidating. Just do not forget to release the winch after a climb

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I copied that idea on my yellow Jeep, used a harbor freight atv winch. Does the trick for me.
I am sure you are familiar with the utility tower spot on Cleghorn
That flat face looks intimidating but my Lil Jeep crawled right up it with the front cinched down. For steep climbs you'll love a suck down winch, makes it feel a lot less intimidating. Just do not forget to release the winch after a climb
Awesome to hear. I think I am going to move this project higher up on the list. Did you just weld the pulley straight to the axle tube?

Yep I am familiar with that spot. The powerline hill is where I do all my testing. I've only seen long wheelbase Toyotas climb up that steep hill, and even they struggle. Seems like adding a suckdown winch makes as much as a difference as adding lockers.
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Awesome to hear. I think I am going to move this project higher up on the list. Did you just weld the pulley straight to the axle tube?

Yep I am familiar with that spot. The powerline hill is where I do all my testing. I've only seen long wheelbase Toyotas climb up that steep hill, and even they struggle. Seems like adding a suckdown winch makes as much as a difference as adding lockers.
Big Jeep walks up it with no problem.
The lil one didn't have to much of a struggle with it either


It being as big an improvement as lockers would be a big statement, but it's a worthwhile enhancement if you like climbing hills and ledges

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Using my tire carrier as a bumper doesn't seem to be an entirely good idea. Was having a hard time getting the latch pin in. Resolved that today and had a bit of fun welding. The idea is that it might make almost a usable rear stinger. The way things go, put put Jeep aka mountain goat keeps climbing steeper stuff. Eventually that will lead to trouble
Oh well I liked how this weld looks. Welded as you see it.


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Big Jeep walks up it with no problem.
The lil one didn't have to much of a struggle with it either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZaEvB-l2Wo

It being as big an improvement as lockers would be a big statement, but it's a worthwhile enhancement if you like climbing hills and ledges
Sweet. I'm visualising this looking at the Jeep and the only thing I can't figure out is where to route the line out of the drum to the pulley. How did you do this?

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You stick the winch on the right spring bucket route the cable down through the fender tot the pulley, then back up to the other side and secure it to the frame rail. Mine could use some polishing, but you are welcome to take a look at it

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You stick the winch on the right spring bucket route the cable down through the fender tot the pulley, then back up to the other side and secure it to the frame rail. Mine could use some polishing, but you are welcome to take a look at it
I like this with the exception of the salt and mud in the Midwest.
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I like this with the exception of the salt and mud in the Midwest.
We don't suffer from that problem luckily.
As a mechanic having to work on rusted crap sucks balls, been there done that. Cannot think of any good reason on having to live and work in any of the states that have harsh winters, road salt or anything like that. Haven't missed any of that in a long time. Makes it almost worth it, to put up with all the commies here in Cali

Anyway, my lil project for the day is whipped back in shape



Don't think aluminum rings would have been happy on my rims.
These steel ones look worse for wear after just 2 outings


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You stick the winch on the right spring bucket route the cable down through the fender tot the pulley, then back up to the other side and secure it to the frame rail. Mine could use some polishing, but you are welcome to take a look at it
Makes sense for the most part. When I start to piece the puzzle together I would love to take a look at your rig to get an idea.
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