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Unread 06-14-2013, 10:05 PM   #91
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I am pretty sure sparrow is running a tc drop which works but is not ideal I would start saving for the sye/dc shaft.
Actually I was running both a SYE/CV and a tcase drop for a while lol.

I put the t-case drop in right after the lift and drove it like that until my SYE got in. I put that in, and a week or so later sourced my DS and had that cut and balanced. I took out the tcase drop when I got those in, but was still getting vibes around 35-45mph and was too lazy to re-shim my springs (they were off about 3* or so, just enough to mess with me) and so I put the drop back in knowing I could make it right when I got the 8.8 set up.

Now that the 8.8 is in there is no more t-case drop.

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Unread 06-14-2013, 10:43 PM   #92
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I would't think you would need a drop pitman arm at that lift height. If you bushings are still in good shape maybe but I would say just buy the omu bushing use the old bushings for back up they will wear out. I am pretty sure sparrow is running a tc drop which works but is not ideal I would start saving for the sye/dc shaft. But this is just my opinion and we all know how that goes!
I agree, might as well buy new ones. Plus I'm planning on selling the existing superlift and I'm sure the buyer would need those.


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You won't regret the OME!

1. No you don't need a drop pitman arm. At least I didn't. My steering geometry seems to be just fine; everything is tight and responsive. Although I still need to recenter my steering wheel. It's amazing what you get used to driving around a 20 year old YJ! If you do find you need a DPM, grab one from an XJ/ZJ from your local JY. That was my plan if it ended up being needed.

Thanks for the tip, will do, but doubt I will if you didn't.

2. Not sure about reusing the bushings. I remember reading somewhere that the OME springs use a slightly different bushing. Something about them being thicker to compensate for the slightly tapered ends of the spring? It's about $80.00 for all new bushings, so if it was me, I'd just buy them for the peace of mind.

I'm going with new ones!

3. I have a CV shaft out of an XJ. I snagged it for $25, and it cost me (god I'm starting to forget! So much in so little of time it's all blurring together!) like $67.00 to have it cut and balanced. So my DS was under $100 total. I got my SYE kit from Jeephut for something like $160 or so. I do remember that, all said and done, my CV/SYE was under $250.

Wow, that's a steal. I was looking at Rugged Ridge SYE and tom woods shaft, together that's over $600...You can run your stock shaft with a t-case drop for a while. But you will need the SYE/CV for it all to work right. On a related note, the shaft I had cut and balanced when I had my D35 still in, worked perfectly once I swapped to the 8.8. It's extended no more than 1/4" past where it was with the d35 which isn't that big of deal...and I stretched my wheelbase an inch when I did my 8.8! I think that the added thickness of the 8.8, coupled with the thickness of the flange adapter, was offset by the 1" stretch to basically even out to where I was before.

You will LOVE the ride of the OME/5100s. I can't remember but you already ditched your track/sway bars right? (too lazy to dig back for that info haha.)

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Again, great info man, this is exactly what I was looking for.
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Unread 06-14-2013, 10:45 PM   #93
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I was reading on the 8.8 install and looks like the pumpkin is offcenter compared to d35. Depending on my luck finding CV driveshaft and SYE for a half way decent price, I may run stock DS for a short period of time. Does it work ok with the 8.8 being the way it is, off center?
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Unread 06-14-2013, 10:53 PM   #94
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I was reading on the 8.8 install and looks like the pumpkin is offcenter compared to d35. Depending on my luck finding CV driveshaft and SYE for a half way decent price, I may run stock DS for a short period of time. Does it work ok with the 8.8 being the way it is, off center?
You can run the stock DS with the lift and always throw on a t-case drop if you have issues.

DO NOT run the stock DS with the 8.8. You would just be creating waaaaay more work for yourself then. The angles that the stock DS functions at and the angles a SYE/CV set up work at, are completely different. If you're putting in the 8.8 you only want to have to weld your perches in one time, at the correct pitch.

Otherwise you'll be shimming the axle trying to fix the angle later and that's just not right.

You'll be fine on the d35 with a small tcase drop and stock DS for a while. Wait to do you 8.8 until you're completely ready. I myself forgot to measure my shocks to make sure that they had the correct travel before I welded on the mounts to the axle, and now my Jeep is dead in the water for another week until parts arrive. And I'll be grinding off the work I just did, and redoing it.

That was a $100.00 and about 4 hour mistake on my part.
And not the first time I messed up on my Jeep so far either, and I'm sure it's not the last!

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Edit: Crap, realized I didn't directly answer your question. No the offset has had no effect on my CV/SYE set up, but I imagine it would wreak havoc on the stock DS. But like I said, don't torture yourself and only do the work once.
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Cool YJ build.
I guess I'm the first one to say it, but way to go with the PRO GUN! YEAH!
Maybe you can affect some of those Cali hippies.
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Unread 06-14-2013, 11:01 PM   #96
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You can run the stock DS with the lift and always throw on a t-case drop if you have issues.

DO NOT run the stock DS with the 8.8. You would just be creating waaaaay more work for yourself then. The angles that the stock DS functions at and the angles a SYE/CV set up work at, are completely different. If you're putting in the 8.8 you only want to have to weld your perches in one time, at the correct pitch.

Otherwise you'll be shimming the axle trying to fix the angle later and that's just not right.

You'll be fine on the d35 with a small tcase drop and stock DS for a while. Wait to do you 8.8 until you're completely ready. I myself forgot to measure my shocks to make sure that they had the correct travel before I welded on the mounts to the axle, and now my Jeep is dead in the water for another week until parts arrive. And I'll be grinding off the work I just did, and redoing it.

That was a $100.00 and about 4 hour mistake on my part.
And not the first time I messed up on my Jeep so far either, and I'm sure it's not the last!

Cheers

Edit: Crap, realized I didn't directly answer your question. No the offset has had no effect on my CV/SYE set up, but I imagine it would wreak havoc on the stock DS. But like I said, don't torture yourself and only do the work once.
I ran a stock shaft (with t case drop) with my 8.8 for awhile and it worked but I was eating threw u joints......so x2 on waiting for a Sye before doing all the work for the 8.8!

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Unread 06-15-2013, 04:16 AM   #97
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You can run the stock DS with the lift and always throw on a t-case drop if you have issues.

DO NOT run the stock DS with the 8.8. You would just be creating waaaaay more work for yourself then. The angles that the stock DS functions at and the angles a SYE/CV set up work at, are completely different. If you're putting in the 8.8 you only want to have to weld your perches in one time, at the correct pitch.

Otherwise you'll be shimming the axle trying to fix the angle later and that's just not right.

You'll be fine on the d35 with a small tcase drop and stock DS for a while. Wait to do you 8.8 until you're completely ready. I myself forgot to measure my shocks to make sure that they had the correct travel before I welded on the mounts to the axle, and now my Jeep is dead in the water for another week until parts arrive. And I'll be grinding off the work I just did, and redoing it.

That was a $100.00 and about 4 hour mistake on my part.
And not the first time I messed up on my Jeep so far either, and I'm sure it's not the last!

Cheers

Edit: Crap, realized I didn't directly answer your question. No the offset has had no effect on my CV/SYE set up, but I imagine it would wreak havoc on the stock DS. But like I said, don't torture yourself and only do the work once.
I see what you mean completely. Since 8.8 needs to be pointed up for CV shaft and pointed straight for stock ds, it would mean rewelding spring perches. We're doing the work once for a SYE and CV shaft. Planning on keeping the heep for a while, might as well do it right.

You live and learn though, that's what's so great about these things. Even if you mess it up or don't like the outcome, you can take it apart and redo it all over again.



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Cool YJ build.
I guess I'm the first one to say it, but way to go with the PRO GUN! YEAH!
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Thanks man, I love my guns and so does gf, we got a nice little collection going. Can't believe what's happening lately with the whole gun panic...
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Unread 06-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #98
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Update 06/15:

After speaking with Brycen who has been very helpful and doing some research along with everything posted itt, I have made up my mind and ordered OME 36r springs
Will be placing the order for Bilstein 5100s as soon as the money from superlift hits my account.

Meanwhile I couldn't stand looking at the primered tube fenders, went ahead and sprayed with bed liner. Harbor freight canvas blanket came in handy:






Sprayed inner fenders with flat black after lots and lots of sanding




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Had to make a quick trip to home depot, saw a nice little work bench made in USA for $69 Figured I can use one over the plastic table we've been cutting on:


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all setup in 4 minutes rather than 3 as advertised, but I'm very happy and have a real bench to work on


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I know you guys have asked me to pm about sponsorship stuff. I might as well post it here.

I simply contact a company and I will use superlift as example. Someone picks up, I say: "hi, i'm an existing customer and would like to speak with someone about a possible sponsorship proposal"
Typically they sound interested and transfer me to someone up the chain of command. Usually it is someone in charge of marketing and such. I then explain what I have to offer or do for the company, then ask them in a polite manner about possibly obtaining their product of my interest.
For superlift I began by saying how much I enjoy using their product. Talked about my trail adventures and how I would gladly provide them with pictures and videos of it in action. Then I proposed a bigger lift for me to try out and take more media they can use to market and advertise their product. They agreed, but I got too impatient to wait for their product.

We got the hercules tires on my Jeep 100% free, they even shipped a spare! It worked for me for all of my vehicles. The BMW posted somewhere itt before economy hit, had 7 sponsors. 3 of which gave and installed their products for free. Last sponsor I got was in 2011, Autopower, they did a rollcage. Companies are out there willing to sponsor, you just have to look and call. Email never seemed to work, in person is best.

4 wheel parts was a partial sponsorship, wholesale pricing is still awesome and they're a great company to deal with. Just ordered my OME springs from them for 34$ under quadratec, that's per spring. We also landed Bestop and got a free bikini top shipped to me.

Hope this helps
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Yep. Helped a lot. Thanks!

Hopefully I can pull something off. Haha.
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Glad I can help!
You won't be disappointed in those OME springs. They will wake your Jeep up on and off the road.

The a$$ end of your Jeep makes me want to keep my sport cage in. Looks sexy and classic and tough all at once!
Keep up the hard work. It's paying off.

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Yep. Helped a lot. Thanks!

Hopefully I can pull something off. Haha.
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Glad I can help!
You won't be disappointed in those OME springs. They will wake your Jeep up on and off the road.

The a$$ end of your Jeep makes me want to keep my sport cage in. Looks sexy and classic and tough all at once!
Keep up the hard work. It's paying off.

Cheers
You guys have definitely been a great motivation and I got some catching up to do in your thread. Good job on sneaking in that 8.8
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Happy fathers day folks.

Brycen, missed your question about track bars, they've been long gone. Best free mod I've done


Today spent more time spraying away at the rock sliders and rear fender wells with bed liner and flat black Rust-oleum. Then took gf to pay respects to her father at the Greenwood memorial:




It needs to see more dirt and less grey top. Contemplating on one final off-road trip in June before the 8.8 goes in. Can D35 handle it?!?!
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update 06/19

Got an email from Superlift with 6 tracking numbers, complete heavy duty 3.5" kit is on the way. I've already had 4 wheel parts place the order for OME springs though. Looks like the superlift kit will be up for sale, anyone interested PM me for details.
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Update 6/20:

to do by November, need to pass smog in CA

- Howell TBi
- 4.0 HO head if compression blows in my 4.2
- new cat

to do in the near future

- finish spraying bedliner inside tub
- install new lift
- install 8.8 axle
- install sye/CV driveshaft
- rock crusher 8.8 cover
- fab and install 20mm ammo can
- regear d30 to 4.11
- mount 33s/35s (undecided at this point)
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