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Unread 06-14-2013, 06:28 AM   #76
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Called my buddy at 4 wheel parts to get an order going:

- 4x 4" RE front springs
- new spring bushings
- 4x Bilstein 5100 shocks
- Drop pitman arm

I think this is all I would need to get the 8.8 axle in and clear 33s with full flex

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Unread 06-14-2013, 04:07 PM   #77
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I put together a cart at quadratec for now:

4 heavy duty 2.5" Old Man Emu front springs
4 Bilstein 5100 shocks
Daystar 1" bodylift
~$850


will call 4 wheel parts tomorrow and see what my cost would be...
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Go with the 36R rear springs though, not the 14r front springs. I believe Qtech has them listed as medium duty rears.

PM Kolak here on the boards for a quote on the shocks. That's where I got mine and he offered a great deal (better than qtech.)

You'll also need 4 packs of the OME spring bushings (they are not included with the springs) and new U-bolts.

Looking awesome man!

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Unread 06-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #78
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Go with the 36R rear springs though, not the 14r front springs. I believe Qtech has them listed as medium duty rears.

PM Kolak here on the boards for a quote on the shocks. That's where I got mine and he offered a great deal (better than qtech.)

You'll also need 4 packs of the OME spring bushings (they are not included with the springs) and new U-bolts.

Looking awesome man!

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had no idea you're on OME springs!

I get a hair over wholesale pricing through 4 wheel parts, partial sponsorship so anything I order is through them. Was just using quadratec for ideas

Here's a thing though, according to OME it's 1.75" lift not 2.5 like advertised. That would put me exactly where I'm at now height wise.

Based on that, I'm considering Rubicon Express 4" lift with 5100 shocks coupled with my existing 1/2" boom shackles.

I do appreciate the contact for discount, I'll see what his cost is on billies. ~70$ my cost so far.

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Unread 06-14-2013, 04:33 PM   #79
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Now I'm really confused, reading through your profile, you do have 2.5" ome with same boom shackles as I do, and you're fitting 35s?!?! That's give or take ~3" lift. All in those fenders? but then you seem to have plenty of travel. I'm lost lol, please elaborate
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Unread 06-14-2013, 04:43 PM   #80
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OME says its 1.75" but many many people run the 36r and get closer to 3" lift.

Edit: if you could pm details about these sponsorships, more like how to get them, I'd appreciate it. Lol.
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Unread 06-14-2013, 05:47 PM   #81
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Now I'm really confused, reading through your profile, you do have 2.5" ome with same boom shackles as I do, and you're fitting 35s?!?! That's give or take ~3" lift. All in those fenders? but then you seem to have plenty of travel. I'm lost lol, please elaborate
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The 36r's gave me about 3" of lift and with the 1/2" booms I'm at around 3-3.5" of lift...I think. My Jeep was a mess when I got it and I couldn't get very accurate before/after measurements.

A lot of it is the Metalcloak front fenders (they advertise an extra 2.5" of tire clearance) and my TJ cut rears. I'm more than happy with how it rides and performs and would absolutely recommend the set up.

With your flat fenders and the OME 36rs and 5100s and 1/2" booms you will have plenty of room for your 33s to perform awesomely.

So yes I'm fitting 35s with right around 3" of lift and it works flawlessly. If you really want to get crazy, you could fit 37s on 4" like Zte haha!

I highly recommend my set up though. You will not be disappointed with the on road ride and the off road capability.

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Unread 06-14-2013, 08:07 PM   #82
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Ah, got ya! Thank you for taking the time to type everything up and making some sense. I would like to stay as low as possible and fit 33s since I am in a wheel chair and every vertical inch makes it that much harder to get in and out.

Your setup is great, very functional, looks amazing and from your pics and videos and seems to do great offroad.

This rules out 4" lift, no reason to get it for me, 33s is as big as I'll ever go.

Now between OME and RE 2.5", which one is better? RE has military wrap, but costs more per spring. Either spring I go with, Bilstein 5100s stay.



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Ah, got ya! Thank you for taking the time to type everything up and making some sense. I would like to stay as low as possible and fit 33s since I am in a wheel chair and every vertical inch makes it that much harder to get in and out.

Your setup is great, very functional, looks amazing and from your pics and videos and seems to do great offroad.

This rules out 4" lift, no reason to get it for me, 33s is as big as I'll ever go.

Now between OME and RE 2.5", which one is better? RE has military wrap, but costs more per spring. Either spring I go with, Bilstein 5100s stay.

(I'll pm the sponsorship thing in a few hrs
Not a problem at all!
Without the awesome help of the JF YJ guys my Jeep probably would have turned out a turd. Just trying to pay it forward, and I'm really enjoying following your build.

I also wanted to stay as low as possible to keep my Jeep as stable as I could and still fit 35s for the axle clearance. There is a lot of places to wheel around here where you spend half your time in serious off camber situations, and I had friends "back in the day" that flopped their tall rigs constantly because of this.

Also, since it's my DD, I felt that keeping it on the low side would improve highway handling, speed, comfort, etc. It's working out better than I hoped!

The OME springs have a mil-wrap on one side of each spring. I know a lot of guys around here end up cutting off the mil-wraps to improve the flex of the springs (the mil-wrap reduces the amount of droop the spring has) but I prefer the added security.

I would totally recommend the OME over the RE springs. They ride a LOT better. I just met a guy with a YJ here locally that is running the 4" RE complete kit in his rig. I went for a quick ride and I can say that the ride of my set up is at least 2x better than the RE set up. I'm not sure how much is shocks, and how much is springs, but the OME springs are like butter. Especially once they are broken in.

Feel free to share you sponsorship PMs with me too

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Unread 06-14-2013, 09:12 PM   #84
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I'm so glad you chimed in the thread before I ordered too tall of a lift. Where I typically wheel, Corral canyon, trails are very unforgiving. I can't tell you how many rigs rolled with 35s and larger tires in those off camber situations.

I don't DD the Jeep but drive it around town any chance I get. Commute to work twice a week or so. Keeping it low but functional is definitely the key.

I'm going to take your advice since you speak from experience and order OME with 5100s, couple those with my 1/2" boom shackles and call it a day. I can always add 1" of body lift later if needed.

Will shoot you a pm later tonight about the sponsorship stuff


BTW do you have a drop pitman arm installed or can we get by without one with OME?
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Haha
The 36r's gave me about 3" of lift and with the 1/2" booms I'm at around 3-3.5" of lift...I think. My Jeep was a mess when I got it and I couldn't get very accurate before/after measurements.

A lot of it is the Metalcloak front fenders (they advertise an extra 2.5" of tire clearance) and my TJ cut rears. I'm more than happy with how it rides and performs and would absolutely recommend the set up.

With your flat fenders and the OME 36rs and 5100s and 1/2" booms you will have plenty of room for your 33s to perform awesomely.

So yes I'm fitting 35s with right around 3" of lift and it works flawlessly. If you really want to get crazy, you could fit 37s on 4" like Zte haha!

I highly recommend my set up though. You will not be disappointed with the on road ride and the off road capability.

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I have had thought off running the same springs are you when it comes time to buy new springs this fall........don't tempt me!
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I have had thought off running the same springs are you when it comes time to buy new springs this fall........don't tempt me!
You should! And add a 1" BL and TT and be at the same height with more tummy clearance!

Although then I'll really be mad that you're bigger.

Sorry for the derail Kgb!


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I'm so glad you chimed in the thread before I ordered too tall of a lift. Where I typically wheel, Corral canyon, trails are very unforgiving. I can't tell you how many rigs rolled with 35s and larger tires in those off camber situations.

I don't DD the Jeep but drive it around town any chance I get. Commute to work twice a week or so. Keeping it low but functional is definitely the key.

I'm going to take your advice since you speak from experience and order OME with 5100s, couple those with my 1/2" boom shackles and call it a day. I can always add 1" of body lift later if needed.

Will shoot you a pm later tonight about the sponsorship stuff

BTW do you have a drop pitman arm installed or can we get by without one with OME?
Yeah no need for a 4 inch kit good call man, I am at 4 inches of lift and kinda want to lower it some more...........
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Eh, feel free to talk about anything, share ideas, etc itt, I don't mind as I don't have anything all that important going on anyway...

Talked to my buddy again at 4 wheel parts, he's leaning me toward RE, but I'm set on OME and will be ordering tomorrow morning.

Still have a couple of questions though:

1. will I need a drop pitman arm?
2. can I reuse my existing spring bushings from superlift?
3. what driveshaft setup are you running sparrows? CV or stock one? do you have SYE?

Thanks for everything again guys, I feel much better now that I'm back on track
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Eh, feel free to talk about anything, share ideas, etc itt, I don't mind as I don't have anything all that important going on anyway...

Talked to my buddy again at 4 wheel parts, he's leaning me toward RE, but I'm set on OME and will be ordering tomorrow morning.

Still have a couple of questions though:

1. will I need a drop pitman arm?
2. can I reuse my existing spring bushings from superlift?
3. what driveshaft setup are you running sparrows? CV or stock one? do you have SYE?

Thanks for everything again guys, I feel much better now that I'm back on track
I would't think you would need a drop pitman arm at that lift height. If you bushings are still in good shape maybe but I would say just buy the omu bushing use the old bushings for back up they will wear out. I am pretty sure sparrow is running a tc drop which works but is not ideal I would start saving for the sye/dc shaft. But this is just my opinion and we all know how that goes!
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Eh, feel free to talk about anything, share ideas, etc itt, I don't mind as I don't have anything all that important going on anyway...

Talked to my buddy again at 4 wheel parts, he's leaning me toward RE, but I'm set on OME and will be ordering tomorrow morning.

Still have a couple of questions though:

1. will I need a drop pitman arm?
2. can I reuse my existing spring bushings from superlift?
3. what driveshaft setup are you running sparrows? CV or stock one? do you have SYE?

Thanks for everything again guys, I feel much better now that I'm back on track
You won't regret the OME!

1. No you don't need a drop pitman arm. At least I didn't. My steering geometry seems to be just fine; everything is tight and responsive. Although I still need to recenter my steering wheel. It's amazing what you get used to driving around a 20 year old YJ! If you do find you need a DPM, grab one from an XJ/ZJ from your local JY. That was my plan if it ended up being needed.

2. Not sure about reusing the bushings. I remember reading somewhere that the OME springs use a slightly different bushing. Something about them being thicker to compensate for the slightly tapered ends of the spring? It's about $80.00 for all new bushings, so if it was me, I'd just buy them for the peace of mind.

3. I have a CV shaft out of an XJ. I snagged it for $25, and it cost me (god I'm starting to forget! So much in so little of time it's all blurring together!) like $67.00 to have it cut and balanced. So my DS was under $100 total. I got my SYE kit from Jeephut for something like $160 or so. I do remember that, all said and done, my CV/SYE was under $250.

You can run your stock shaft with a t-case drop for a while. But you will need the SYE/CV for it all to work right. On a related note, the shaft I had cut and balanced when I had my D35 still in, worked perfectly once I swapped to the 8.8. It's extended no more than 1/4" past where it was with the d35 which isn't that big of deal...and I stretched my wheelbase an inch when I did my 8.8! I think that the added thickness of the 8.8, coupled with the thickness of the flange adapter, was offset by the 1" stretch to basically even out to where I was before.

You will LOVE the ride of the OME/5100s. I can't remember but you already ditched your track/sway bars right? (too lazy to dig back for that info haha.)

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