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post #2506 of 2831 Old 02-24-2014, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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I'm thinking the lighter weight of the Al rims will offset the weight of the bigger sidewalls.

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Im not worried about weight at all. On a jeep with rockers, hefty bumpers, winch... soon to be much more armor, the few extra pounds I save on alloy vs. steel isn't significant at all.

The only reason I would consider alloy over steel is longevity in new england seasons.


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Im not worried about weight at all. On a jeep with rockers, hefty bumpers, winch... soon to be much more armor, the few extra pounds I save on alloy vs. steel isn't significant at all. The only reason I would consider alloy over steel is longevity in new england seasons.
Every pound counts. That's why a lot of companies are producing aluminum armor these days. Aside from anti corrosion, it's significantly lighter and just as strong
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Im not worried about weight at all. On a jeep with rockers, hefty bumpers, winch... soon to be much more armor, the few extra pounds I save on alloy vs. steel isn't significant at all.

The only reason I would consider alloy over steel is longevity in new england seasons.
Unsprung weight, I should have said; wear and tear on the suspension.

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Unsprung weight, I should have said; wear and tear on the suspension. Sent from my SPH-D710 using JeepForum
You'll wear out U joints and axle shafts faster than added weight will sag your springs. Turning heavier rims and tires will wear out steering components etc. Many people run steel wheels, I prefer to aluminum
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We jeepers like to work/tinker on our projects. I don't see this happening to you, with your experience Kate, but I thought I would bring this up. Aluminum wheels tend to "corrode" in wet cold winters. Now I am not talking about on the surface/face of the wheel but the mounting flange. With lug nuts off many times I have had to use a mini sledge hammer to break them loose. Granted they were on customers vehicles that were DD for 40/50k with no service. (Break, steering checks, tire rotation, etc..NO Anti-sieze) That being said, I grew up in CT and I would go for Aluminum wheels.
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Unsprung weight, I should have said; wear and tear on the suspension.

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I dont see how the unspung weight would affect anything on the suspension...

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You'll wear out U joints and axle shafts faster than added weight will sag your springs. Turning heavier rims and tires will wear out steering components etc. Many people run steel wheels, I prefer to aluminum
... But I can see it affecting U-joints (which are no problem to replace) and steering components. That being said - I have upgraded steering, and by the time an extra 40lbs would wear it down it would be time for another upgrade anyway.

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We jeepers like to work/tinker on our projects. I don't see this happening to you, with your experience Kate, but I thought I would bring this up. Aluminum wheels tend to "corrode" in wet cold winters. Now I am not talking about on the surface/face of the wheel but the mounting flange. With lug nuts off many times I have had to use a mini sledge hammer to break them loose. Granted they were on customers vehicles that were DD for 40/50k with no service. (Break, steering checks, tire rotation, etc..NO Anti-sieze) That being said, I grew up in CT and I would go for Aluminum wheels.

I think after all is said and done - I have settled on a nice set of alloys. Again along the lines of if you are going to buy new steel wheels... why not buy new alloys. And if I am going to buy new alloys - they might as well be pretty.

I have my eyes set on the Ion Alloy 174s I think.

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I have my eyes set on the Ion Alloy 174s I think.
You mean the same ones I have in my garage awaiting tires? :-P who's copying who?!

I never make the same mistake twice - it's more like three or four times.
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I dont see how the unspung weight would affect anything on the suspension...
Your suspension is literally and directly connected to the unsprung mass...a mass that moves and reacts to force: tractive, braking, turning, etc, etc, etc. These movements and reactions - in addition to being some of the essential building blocks that define your Jeep's performance - are a major part of the suspension's reason for existing in the first place.

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You mean the same ones I have in my garage awaiting tires? :-P who's copying who?!
God damnit Tyler!!!!

Its ok - great minds think alike I guess.

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OK,

Still doing wheel and tire research. This is definitely the most complicated purchase I will have made to date.

So, I think that I want to go up a size in tires... I have plenty of room. With the knowledge that I am looking at 35" in diameter or similar metric equivalent here is my question I ask of you:

What diameter wheel?

As far as I can gather... 15" are cheaper
17" are easier to find big tires for and provide better handling.

Yes?

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15s on a TJ/LJ unless your doing a big brake kit then 17s.
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15s on a TJ/LJ unless your doing a big brake kit then 17s.
On the list down the line - but definitely not in the budget anytime soon. Thank you very much.

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On the list down the line - but definitely not in the budget anytime soon. Thank you very much.
You can still get a BBK for a 15" wheel, just not AS big. If you want the 17" BBK, get the 17" wheels now, otherwise you'll be losing money buying the 15" wheels and tires, and THEN the 17" wheels and tires.

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You can still get a BBK for a 15" wheel, just not AS big. If you want the 17" BBK, get the 17" wheels now, otherwise you'll be losing money buying the 15" wheels and tires, and THEN the 17" wheels and tires.
Pros/cons investing in a 17" bbk?

Do I absolutely NEED it? I am running 16" wheels now and my brakes are better than my mercury tracer.

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