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post #811 of 4125 Old 03-24-2013, 08:00 PM
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I plan to get a stick with a magnet at the end, pull the shafts, drill the holes, clean, insert sleeves then weld. I would end up drilling right through the sleeves if I tried what your planning.


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post #812 of 4125 Old 03-24-2013, 08:10 PM Thread Starter
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I plan to get a stick with a magnet at the end, pull the shafts, drill the holes, clean, insert sleeves then weld. I would end up drilling right through the sleeves if I tried what your planning.
I plan on using a stop collar/depth gauge to stop the drill at the right depth. They are pretty cheap , and come in quite handy . My fear of the magnet technique is missing flakes , but after some thinking I believe those fears may be unwarranted .

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I plan on using a stop collar/depth gauge to stop the drill at the right depth. They are pretty cheap , and come in quite handy . My fear of the magnet technique is missing flakes , but after some thinking I believe those fears may be unwarranted .
I'd pull everything apart and set the housing up on the bench to do the drilling, and then I'd swab out the flakes and chips and dust before installing and welding the sleeves...almost like running a brush and cleaning patches through a barrel.

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I'd pull everything apart and set the housing up on the bench to do the drilling, and then I'd swab out the flakes and chips and dust before installing and welding the sleeves...almost like running a brush and cleaning patches through a barrel.
How many welds would you add? I am planning on four plug welds per side. I thought that would be sufficient?

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According the the instructions they want you to drill a total of 16 holes.
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16 plug welds is total overkill. When I sleeved my hp30 (made the sleeves myself though) I did 3 plug welds on the long side and only 1 plug weld on the short side. Combined with being welded at the end of the tube that sleeve will never move. The plug welds are only there to hold it in place, not to add any strength to the sleeve.
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How many welds would you add? I am planning on four plug welds per side. I thought that would be sufficient?
I would not add any. Mark would add quite a few.

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According the the instructions they want you to drill a total of 16 holes.
I was somewhere in the 16-ish neighborhood with my rough count...but that doesn't include the tube-to-center welds. I really need to get my hands on a baby TIG setup...

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I was planning to do 6 on the long side and 2 or 4 on the shorter end.

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Do you know the page # of the under armor installation/installed pictures? I searched through the thread but couldn't find it.
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According the the instructions they want you to drill a total of 16 holes.
I didnt get directions , just two big pieces of tubing . Thanks for the link , though I think that is overkill as Jankoid states below.

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16 plug welds is total overkill. When I sleeved my hp30 (made the sleeves myself though) I did 3 plug welds on the long side and only 1 plug weld on the short side. Combined with being welded at the end of the tube that sleeve will never move. The plug welds are only there to hold it in place, not to add any strength to the sleeve.
I agree thats a lot of holes , 6 and 4 is what I think I am going to do .

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I would not add any. Mark would add quite a few.
Next time your over we are firing up the welder .

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I was planning to do 6 on the long side and 2 or 4 on the shorter end.
I like the 6 and 4 count , I think thats the route I am going .
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Do you know the page # of the under armor installation/installed pictures? I searched through the thread but couldn't find it.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/j...l#post12808885
This should take you to the start . If not the install starts at post # 54 .

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The view from the cabin here in Minnesota ... you betcha !

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The view from the cabin here in Minnesota ... you betcha !
Nice. Except for the snow. I hate some snow.

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Next time your over we are firing up the welder .
I'll photograph you welding all day long, but unless you want Mark to be grinding out welds in addition to applying them, you'd better keep me away from it.

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Nice. Except for the snow. I hate some snow.
Hmm , you hate snow . And you hate Monkeys ... so then you must really love the Snow Monkeys !


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I'll photograph you welding all day long, but unless you want Mark to be grinding out welds in addition to applying them, you'd better keep me away from it.
Next time over you are welding , you cant get better at it unless you practice.

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Hmm , you hate snow . And you hate Monkeys ... so then you must really love the Snow Monkeys !
Repeat: The only good monkey is a pre-killed monkey.

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Repeat: The only good monkey is a pre-killed monkey.
All of my pre killed snow monkeys come from ballistic , so it may be a while before they come in ...

Back on topic , the Superior axle shafts came in today . This leaves me waiting on the Synergy ball joints . Once I finish up this job I should have three or four weeks to get everything ready for Moab .

If the red truck sells before I head west , I may order new shocks and control arms . I am half way convinced my knocking noise is coming from one of the JKS arms . When I get back I am going to try and get it on a lift to isolate the noise . If that is the culprit , then I have to figure out what arms to get ...

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