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post #1936 of 4124 Old 10-06-2013, 09:07 PM
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Ok after these photos and reading what you guys are saying and really looking at it.... I'm out! No way that would be worth the effort unless you were also looking at stretching the front in some way. More power to ya though Beasley!

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post #1937 of 4124 Old 10-06-2013, 10:26 PM
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Have you seen anyone cut the cross tube and plate it ? I basically want to make a D shape out of it.
This is something that has been in my mind for a while...with 1.5" cut out of the frame, the axle pushed forward a hair, and a slightly larger tire, it might just be worthwhile. Just a lot of work for a little gain. It would be a neat mod though. My main concern is packaging a winch.
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post #1938 of 4124 Old 10-07-2013, 10:08 PM Thread Starter
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It's actually 1.75 tubing but it's also a thinner wall. They sell the bushings and the precut tube.
I have plenty of 1.75 DOM at the house , and I think I can turn down the frame bushings .
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Anyway if you look at this pic and where the front of the steering box mount and or steering box ends will be your most forward point of what you can lob of the frame

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Looks like somewhere between 1.5" and 2" can be gained .
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Man I really thought the front frame stuck out further beyond that cross tube. Their really isn't much to be gained without getting rid of it. I think running a bumper no wider than the frame rails is also a viable way to increase approach.... were not always hitting obstacles square.
I am not looking for a ton of room , but every little bit helps . It looks like this can be as easy or difficult as you want it to be depending on how much room you try to gain .
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I guessed somewhere around 2", with the steering box mount being the rearmost extent of easy cutting, and that's assuming I found a way to move the Antirock mounts rearwards; the tube is a good solution. What's the easiest way to handle the grill's body mount tab if one is keeping it in place?
I think I will make two tabs on the side to locate the grille as I think the frame chopping will require the winch to be sunk in and the center mount would be in the way .
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Agreed, you can only go back to the slope of the steering skid before you run into a big problem, but it's about 1.5 " from the front edge of the bumper.
1.5" off the front and another 1/2" of wheelbase from turning out the arms would be a nice gain .
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Ok after these photos and reading what you guys are saying and really looking at it.... I'm out! No way that would be worth the effort unless you were also looking at stretching the front in some way. More power to ya though Beasley!
After chopping the rear of your frame this is easy Nate !
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This is something that has been in my mind for a while...with 1.5" cut out of the frame, the axle pushed forward a hair, and a slightly larger tire, it might just be worthwhile. Just a lot of work for a little gain. It would be a neat mod though. My main concern is packaging a winch.
Other than sinking the winch into the grille , I don't think this will be a difficult mod . After the outboard takes place , I think I will give it a try .

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post #1939 of 4124 Old 10-07-2013, 10:16 PM
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You lead the way on this one buddy.
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post #1940 of 4124 Old 10-08-2013, 10:31 AM
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post #1941 of 4124 Old 10-08-2013, 01:14 PM
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My thoughts...

I like the bumper protruding just a bit, as little as possible though. I built a bumper from my winch plate the is flush with the frame. My bumper usually takes the heaviest hits, just before the steering box skid. It's alot of work to basically put the steering box closer to the rocks all while keeping it in harms way. It would be a different story if you were gonna relocate it altogether. I have one trail with a skid on my box and most the paint is already gone.

But I'd like to see the result for sure...bet it will look great and honestly you probably wont have any breakage with a beefy skid on there.

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post #1942 of 4124 Old 10-08-2013, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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You lead the way on this one buddy.
What ? Nate get to work mister , I like instructions
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My thoughts...

I like the bumper protruding just a bit, as little as possible though. I built a bumper from my winch plate the is flush with the frame. My bumper usually takes the heaviest hits, just before the steering box skid. It's alot of work to basically put the steering box closer to the rocks all while keeping it in harms way. It would be a different story if you were gonna relocate it altogether. I have one trail with a skid on my box and most the paint is already gone.

But I'd like to see the result for sure...bet it will look great and honestly you probably wont have any breakage with a beefy skid on there.
The steering gear box will get a skid , that will most likely have a piece of my newly acquired sheet of UMHW on it . Though I havent really considered the steering box's newly found exposure as much as I should have ... valid point for sure .

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post #1943 of 4124 Old 10-08-2013, 08:41 PM
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What ? Nate get to work mister , I like instructions

Yes I can be a little nuts sometimes ...

The steering gear box will get a skid , that will most likely have a piece of my newly acquired sheet of UMHW on it . Though I havent really considered the steering box's newly found exposure as much as I should have ... valid point for sure .
Tis is about as beefy as you can make a steering box skit, it has been thoroughly bashed and beaten has survived 5 feet drops straight on a rock.


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post #1944 of 4124 Old 10-14-2013, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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Tis is about as beefy as you can make a steering box skit, it has been thoroughly bashed and beaten has survived 5 feet drops straight on a rock.

Can I get a discount to UPS my rig out to you for some fabbing / wheeling ?



Lu's latest video from our summer trip .

One last thing ... I am picking up some soft doors on the way home . I wont be selling this set as they are new !

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post #1945 of 4124 Old 10-14-2013, 08:47 PM
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Go to Grimjeeper's page and plug in your numbers (he has all of the driveline and tire choices available) and you will amazed at what you can run for gearing and it be a minor change in your highway RPM's. I would recommend 5.13's for 35's towing your trailer.

http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html

There is a 109 RPM difference at 65 mph between 4.88's and 5.13's (2132 vs. 2241) with 35's.

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post #1946 of 4124 Old 10-14-2013, 09:52 PM
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Can I get a discount to UPS my rig out to you for some fabbing / wheeling ?



Lu's latest video from our summer trip .

One last thing ... I am picking up some soft doors on the way home . I wont be selling this set as they are new !
Greg your pretty Jeep would change shape quickly when it hangs around these parts for awhile

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Go to Grimjeeper's page and plug in your numbers (he has all of the driveline and tire choices available) and you will amazed at what you can run for gearing and it be a minor change in your highway RPM's. I would recommend 5.13's for 35's towing your trailer.

http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html


There is a 109 RPM difference at 65 mph between 4.88's and 5.13's (2132 vs. 2241) with 35's.

Jack
I had used his site before , but never realized that you could do two at once...Doh ! Thanks for point that out . Heck for the 109 rpms I could just run a little slower . When your driving 2500 miles in a Jeep your certainly not in a hurry and I think the deeper gearing is going to make the Rockies a lot more pleasant

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Greg your pretty Jeep would change shape quickly when it hangs around these parts for awhile
Its about to get prettier , maybe I will keep it away from you for a while

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post #1949 of 4124 Old 10-17-2013, 09:07 PM
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post #1950 of 4124 Old 10-17-2013, 10:33 PM
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Ok I'll be the first to ask I guess....... WHY are you repainting your entire Jeep???? I've seen it, looked clean to me! Building a show rig??? Or is Hendrix's work that magical that you just can't resist? It does look damn good in the photos.
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